Right now, every single last avatar is left-handed. Maybe it's just me, but this is very strange. It would be nice to have a right-handed avatar.

Another thing I find weird with the current avatars is that the dominant arm is stuck in a "hey there" sort of pose. It works for holding a staff, and maybe a few other things, but it looks really weird with most of the items I've seen. Swords, for example, are pointed down toward the ground instead of held up.

So I would like to suggest making different poses available for the avatars. Most importantly, to me anyway, a right-handed pose. Different positions for the dominant arm to be held in would also be great.

^ Not all swords point down. There are probably more, these are just some that I know of right off.

I s'pose it might be possible to do a mirror-image thing like with pets in the battle images. (thanks to Xav for reminding me of this, 'cos I hadn't thought of it on my own.) But actually changing the pose is extremely unlikely... it'd mean having to redo literally every item to fit the new/additional pose(s), and unlike some sites where a lot of outfit items are fairly simple, a lot of Sylestia items are quite complex and would take a lot of effort to change.

(...All that said, as a left-handed person... I can't help but say that it's been nice to have something actually geared towards lefties for once. :P)

Some swords point up, yes, but they look incredibly stiff. Something you would expect for a statue in a library, an armory or something. The only one that doesn't look fake as can be is that middle golden sword. That one at least has some sort of an angle to it.

Let me put it this way. Would you actually walk around holding a weapon up as straight as possible? I don't think you would. The same goes for holding a sword straight down, with your arm bent in a "hey there" pose. There's nothing relaxed, at all, about the current avatar base. It's a forced pose that looks incredibly uncomfortable.

While it may be unlikely that anything at all will be changed for this, I thought it still worth putting out there.

I love this idea, but one complication:
With the leaving of Sylestia's avi artist, a different pose would mess up most of the items! :(
Without an artist, those items would be unfixable until the artist thing gets worked out.
*i is sadness*

And, yes, power to the lefties.

This could be fixed by simply making right and left exclusive items. Like all the items so far just stay for left. So nothing needs to be changed design wise. And from here on out new items could be created that are either for both left and right, or there simply are a left and right version of each item.

Then art for the new items can be made to fit from the start withoud having to redo art for all the older items.

It would also be great if we could hold 2 items at the same time anyway. Like dual wielding swords,

I would not go for different arm positions as much as I'd love thos because I know that would be a ****** ton of work. But maybe just making it possible to hold something with the right hand could be possible, especialy if past avi items do not need to be adjusted for that and it's just the items going foreward that have this option.


It could be clear in item names as well so there is no confusion. Like all left held items are just normal named as they have always been. But right hand items could become their own catagory. Like they could be named,

Right held items, or Held right items.

And lets say a new sword shows up (randomly making up one now) The spring bunny sword. It could have 2 versions.

The spring bunny sword (which would just be the regular left handed item like all before)

and The spring bunny sword (Right) (which would be the special new edition for the right hand meaning you could NOT equip this as a normal held item, and the normal spring bunny sword could not be equiped in the right hand)

So basicly, just creating items for right hand as their own thing, instead of making one item equipeable on both sides.

Your idea gave me an idea.

Perhaps it would be possible to create an item, or multiple items, that overwrite the arm positioning. If we can dual wield items, the left could use a position item, something like Avatar Arm Relaxed (Left) that would place the arm at the same position that the right arm is in, then the right arm could either stay as is or be given an item to hold. And if items can be used in this way, we could even have avatars running around waving at everyone, giving high fives, or even threatening with a closed fist.

I know next to nothing about coding, but having items capable of changing the position sounds like it could work.

Oh I think using arms as avatar items could be quite fun and interesting. Though they arms as items could not old other items then of course but it could still be fun to have a held item that just gives you a new arm position.

i do fear that might cause some problems with some of the outfits though. So if this becomes a thing, then maybe it would work in combination with new outfits. Like all items pre spring fest 2020 are not compadible, but new items could be.

Or just full scale avatar custums with different arm positions. And or leg positions. You would not be able to change the outfit or give the avatar helds this way because those would clatch in design, but it could give some options.

Not sure how doable this would be though. I always wanted a different position for the female avatar as I kind of hate the one we have now. It feels unnatural. It would be great to have the female outfit on the male base and vice versa as well.

But yeah.. redesigns.. so I doubt this will happen any time soon. I'd be happy with being able to equip right hand items for now, So we can hold 2 items.

I also feel some back items should be able to go together. Like why can you not wear a cape, and have a background wolf? They are both back items but they could go together just fine.

Maybe what we need is just more avatar slots. Now we have head, outfit,held, wings back, and background. Would be great if we could have another back slot, so you can use 2 back items, and a right hand held slot so you can hold 2 items. Different positions, different arm positions and the choice to use either version of an outfit on either base (nothing gender base locked) would be so awesome. But if anything of all of this happens, I'm happy.

it would be great

but I think theres a thread somewhere with the "more poses" suggestion, and it was mentionby the admins that with all the avi items, they'd have to do a lot of redrawing

So maybe in the future, but I do like this idea

EraNime and I ended up seeing a possible way around the issue of having to redraw everything. I didn't add to the first post, but the idea is that arm poses, and possibly leg poses as well, could be added by using items. This would be possible by having slots available for the left and right arms.