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Forum Index > Groups, Guilds, Clubs, and Services > ~Design Theft Opposition~
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Cumulonimbus
Level 75
Warden of Umbra
Joined: 2/3/2018
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Posted: 3/29/2018 at 7:41 AM Post #101
Thank you for your help. Here is the pair.

Also they are both named "Rosy Dream Gen 1" and none of the parents have the same traits or colors so it seems like they were designed and re-gened.
Cian
Level 75
The Kind-Hearted
Joined: 6/15/2014
Threads: 140
Posts: 16,029
Posted: 3/29/2018 at 8:26 AM Post #102
they seem to be from a pre-regen design, now from what i was able to get as information the creator may not own any other pair from this designe but i would advise you to ask them if it's ok for you to breed the pair.
IvyCat
Level 62
Trickster
Joined: 8/23/2016
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Posted: 3/29/2018 at 8:29 AM Post #103
That's perfectly fine. Don't worry! The parents aren't similar so it's fine.
Cian
Level 75
The Kind-Hearted
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Posted: 3/29/2018 at 8:40 AM Post #104
the parents are not similar but the pair is exactely the same, as it is a speacie that give access to regen this is clairely a pre-regen pair from a created designe.
Cumulonimbus
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Posted: 3/29/2018 at 9:52 AM Post #105
Ok I contacted the original owner of both the pets and they did not design the theme. I bought the two lunemara's a while back and the transaction is no longer in my overview. How should I proceed?
Cian
Level 75
The Kind-Hearted
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Posted: 3/29/2018 at 10:30 AM Post #106
look the original.owner of any of the old offepring that have the same coloration then both parents, it will lead you to the owner of the designe ^-^
IvyCat
Level 62
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Posted: 3/29/2018 at 10:52 AM Post #107
There isn't really an issue, simply because one of the parents hasn't been regennerated yet.

I've got a pair of 6vis luporas waiting for the revamp.
They have 12 tp.
I design them both to be a pair.

However, the owner of the parents designs the parents to be a pair with opposite colours.
Now one of my lups is the offspring of a pair, despite being regenned different colours.

This is not design theft.

For example, view Sweetrose.

I'm using Sweetrose for my "Violet Guardian" pair

Her parents are both orange and could be counted as a pair.

I regenned Sweetrose with my own design, her parents were regenned with their own design.

If Sweetrose belonged to someone else, I would not count it as design theft because I did not design Sweetrose then. The owner did.
Edited By IvyCat on 3/29/2018 at 10:55 AM.
IvyCat
Level 62
Trickster
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Posts: 23,715
Posted: 3/29/2018 at 10:56 AM Post #108
Refer to above^

Third example:

This is mummy and daddy, nice and happy before the revamp. They belong to Shard.


Shard then sells this offspring to Ivy, a lovely little female hatchling. It is fertile.


The revamp then rolls around and they all lose their traits.



Shard decides to remake the mother and father to look like this:


Mummy and Daddy are now a new, lovely pair.

However, ivy decides to make baby hatchling look like this:

She grows up to be a lovely adult:


Ivy likes the design and gives her a mate.


They're now a happy pair.


Ask yourself this: is that design theft? No colours are similar, so what if the parents also became a pair? It's part of the pet selling rules. unless you set down clear guidelines immediately, the new owner has the right do what they wish.
*The second design was a random colour generator. 3rd try. Really was lucky :P
**Shard can be replaced with any user.
Edited By IvyCat on 3/29/2018 at 11:03 AM.
Cian
Level 75
The Kind-Hearted
Joined: 6/15/2014
Threads: 140
Posts: 16,029
Posted: 3/29/2018 at 11:17 AM Post #109
In the case where someone buy the pair from someone after they were generated the explanation dosn't work. In that case better talk with the creator of the designe to know if they are ok with you selling offspring from it.

I did make my recheach and find a few offspring from that pair who are exactely like the parents and have someone else as their first owner.
Edited By Cian on 3/29/2018 at 11:23 AM.
Asviloka
Level 70
Ghost Writer
Joined: 3/12/2014
Threads: 89
Posts: 1,888
Posted: 3/29/2018 at 11:28 AM Post #110
I post my designs publicly because I want to share them. If anyone wanted to generate them, tweak them, use them, sell them, I really don't mind. That's why I post them publicly. I have private designs which I keep private, but if someone sees my stable and thinks 'ooh, that's pretty' I don't care if they make one for themselves. I don't care if they make a big project out of 'my' colour codes and make a fortune off it. I don't care if they take submissions from the theme design contests that weren't chosen and use them themselves.

The one thing I'd oppose, obviously, is entering my designs as their own in a contest or whatever. Because pet colours are unimportant in any way, but lying is wrong.
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