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Forum Index > Breeding Discussion > Super Stat Aeri Breeding Discussion
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Imperium
Level 75
Guardian
Joined: 8/21/2013
Threads: 386
Posts: 5,312
Posted: 5/3/2020 at 10:46 PM Post #1
Pinging those whom I believe were interested. If you are not, I'm very sorry for bothering. TwT

Some of you already know I was able to buy a legendary Aeri from Niverus and she has really, really nice stats. :D Unfortunately she is a female. I could gender swap her but then she and all of her possible purebred offspring would lose their Certified Names. (I really don't want to do that. TwT) The other option was to breed her and to get a male OS with some decently high wild stats that could be used to get started and then have a waitlist set up for breedings to her. (Waitlist would not be first come first serve and would be at my discretion depending on factors that I would take in to consideration) I did try to contact another breeder about possible breedings to a male legendary and haven't heard back yet. Right now the current plan will be to breed her to an epic grove Aeri (I'm not sure how much this would effect the wild stats though) and hope for the best (male OS + stats).

Just wanted to way in on opinions or open up ideas on how to do this because admittedly I don't breed that often. And if there's anyone else out there who'd like to join the discussion whom I didn't ping, you are certainly free to do so~
Edited By Imperium on 5/4/2020 at 12:41 AM.
Katty
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Joined: 4/16/2018
Threads: 226
Posts: 4,303
Posted: 5/4/2020 at 12:59 AM Post #2
we might need to talk to Krin about the name thing if gender is swapped since no male dawn legendary was found. he might be able to add the name back. as for the dropping of wild stats, it seems to be upto rng how it drops when bred to non legendary/wild stats. How it works with two legendaries i am not sure xD i own male/female faes but havent bred them xD how it works with non legendary breeding

Legendary | Child 1| Child 2 | Child 3| Child 4|

Another
Legendary| Son| Grandson| Greatgrandbabies|

The breeding of epic to legendary i feel would result in children with nice stats that are slightly under that of mama's. Esmie is actually close in stats to Life's Whimsy so we can see the kind of results in the above children we would likely see in Esmie's children bred to non legendary. Will the stats stay up there if bred to a legendary or epic? that will be hella interesting to see and i am looking forward to that :D

In short, if Krin can give the name back if gender swapped i would consider that as an option. I would have personally if i had bought her, gender swapped anyways and mourned the loss of her certified name xD but alas female legendaries are painful to breed to for stats at max. when you are max you want to keep breeding till you get high hp and high enough SIDA that the baby may produce max offspring in the next generation. Breeding to a legendary female means you have one attempt at this per week or twice per week if non fabled.

the male offspring option. I would like this, if the offspring were 6c i could breed to the boy for possible 6v super aeris. I have 6v 200 mana max SA aeris so i can start work on super non themed Aeris straight away and follow up with super mistwarden later :D :D whoot super mistwarden

Anyways dont mind me xD this is your pretty and at the end of the day it is completely upto you what you do with her. This is just some experiences with stats and my opinion
AliceHearts
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Joined: 8/26/2013
Threads: 257
Posts: 6,304
Posted: 5/4/2020 at 3:19 AM Post #3
i know wild stats always drop, how much depents on how RNG is feeling.
i do know that using a female legendary is not so great for breeding, limetet to 1 breeding at a time and from experions i can say with my luff (how yes was female befor i started breeding) it can take a few 100 tryes befor you get good enough offspring to keep on going with. (and what i'm trying with my luffs now is to increase the wild stats on my offspring becaus over the generations you lose more and more of those) and breed backs to the legendary is the only way to try and do that.

but it's up to you^^ becaus it's your aeri (and this is just something i experions with breeding)


Felix is the result of a super luff female breed back to the legendary themed luff boy i have
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=5533317
mom
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=5263428
legendary boy
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=4659651

this stats are beter then that of this mom but by fare not as good as his dads

and even non non-themed legendarys you can see it happen with my myt and leg kelp pair (and they are basicly the same in wild stats)
baby
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=5598785
mom
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=5139601
dad
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=5195925
Xavion
Level 75
The Perfectionist
Joined: 10/15/2013
Threads: 434
Posts: 5,683
Posted: 5/4/2020 at 11:24 AM Post #4
Congrats on finally getting a legendary! :D


I'd say that getting a male offspring from her to set up for quick-breeding would be the best way to go about it. (Unless Krin would be cool enough to set it so changing her gender doesn't go "no special names for you ever again! D:< " which really does suck.) RNG is the hardest factor to deal with when it comes to making supers, since the base stats would be anywhere between 130- 2000 health, 14-100 strength, etc, so having a male available is basically vital for fighting the RNG on the base stats. (I usually have a 85-95% failure rate for the my superstats breeding, more or less depending on what stage I'm in. Lunes, for example, now that I'm aiming for 850+ health in the breeders, it's more like 98% fails -.- )

Having a second male offspring from her would also be beneficial to broaden the gene pool gap while still maintaining high wild stats. Offspring bred from Son1 would be breedable to offspring from Son2, so if someone strikes the RNG jackpot from both they would have a very powerful breeding pair.


I'm also tempted to beg for an M1 on the gorgeous girl so the offspring between legend and epic can be 6-trait, but that's because I'm always greedy for 6-vis potential when it comes to superstats beasties. >.>;


And, of course, having a breeding from the legend herself would also give some stronger results overall. I've already been clearing Aeri traits for 200 mana, so getting a 200 mana guarantee from legend + maxed200 would be wonderful - one less stat to fight the RNG over!



Thanks for the ping! I'll try to keep track of this thread so I can stay in the loop. <3
Bunne
Level 70
Fancy Pants
Joined: 8/2/2018
Threads: 40
Posts: 862
Posted: 5/4/2020 at 10:21 PM Post #5
Hi Imp! Congrats on your new addition!! :D

It seems that the certified name doesn't carry on to purebreed babies (by looking at the pb babs on search). I think the only time the name is passed on is to mistwardens upon first creation (so frost x aeri pure breeding). So I don't think it is a great loss to future generations if your lovely loses the certified name. I agree with all above that a male would be much better so that all who are able to can breed without having to wait a week in between each breeding. The queue for her would likely last many months xD

I'm interested in breeding if possible. I have a lovely epic dawn girl that needs a mate. I don't mind swapping my girl's gender, but I might have a breeding set up for her that was promised before I saw this :( If you do switch yours to male, I'd be happy to offer up an offspring exchange from the pair. I'll be adding a gene to mine soon, likely M2.

Let me know what you decide!

Edit: Oh it looks like she was bred already. Guess no gender swap for her xD I'll see if I can make a male to breed to her eventually. Please let me know what you are thinking for breedings ^.^ Thanks!
Edited By Bunne on 5/5/2020 at 1:13 AM.
GoldGryphon
Level 75
Guardian of the Realm
Joined: 1/28/2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 4,537
Posted: 5/6/2020 at 4:43 AM Post #6
Hi Eim! Xav had mentioned that you got Niv's legendary! Many congrats on her! I think that you did the right thing and keep her female for your breeding that beautiful Frostkeeper! I was wondering if I could be put on a list for breedings to her or her offspring, I am not going to breed to Frostkeeper, but to my maxed out Spring Moons that I just finished maxing out their mana! After I get a good stat'ed baby I would recolor to match the Spring Moon colors. Thanks for this opportunity!

Edit: I forgot to mention that I have 2 epic Frostkeepers, both male, that you can use. I can mutate any gene that you would like!
Brothers!
Brutus Harshpetal
Calamity Harshpetal
Edited By GoldGryphon on 5/6/2020 at 5:15 AM.
Imperium
Level 75
Guardian
Joined: 8/21/2013
Threads: 386
Posts: 5,312
Posted: 5/6/2020 at 11:17 AM Post #7
I did decide to go against gender swapping her, not only because I didn't want to lose the certified names but also because I don't want to dismiss the work Krin put into this new breeding feature and the event. I also don't want to ask him for unfair favors or create an awkward situation for him. If he allowed a genderswap and name exception for one he'd have to do it with all of them and that's not how the system is set up.

After reading through all the work and experience it takes to get superstats it is optimal to have a male Aeri to breed to. I went ahead and disrupted both of the Aeri until they were able to get traits I liked (while still looking good) and that could produce 1-Vis, 5 carry OS. The stat drop was fairly minimal all things considered~ -74 in HP, -10 in mana and -3 in all of the base wild stats and the first OS is a male~ With some luck, it might be possible to get another OS that has some higher wild stats or better base mana. The male OS has been nurture boosted and will also be prismatic philtered to make the stat gap a bit smaller for hopefully better breeding. I'll get to work on getting a second male OS ready to breed for the offspring between Castiel and any max stat bred pets to breed to following Xavion's suggestion (which will also be nurture boosted and prismatic philtered).

All in all, multiple breedings can be made and there will be a chance for 6-Vis offspring right off the first breeding to Castiel. The base stat breeding gap will be reduced because we can nurture boost and philter these first gen MW OS at the minor reduction of a few wild stats. A second male will hopefully be on standby for the next set of OS to breed to. After we have both of these male OS, Esmie will then be more available for purebred Dawnbreaker breeding and closing any other minor stat gaps if we can't get a male MW with 200 base mana between breeding and a philter.

With that all figured out, the next topic would be breeding to the Mistwarden OS. It's easier overall to have them be set up for public breeding so that I don't have to constantly go in and change the breeding ID's and fees. We could set a single day where the fee is reduced to the minimum or super low to allow for bulk breeding. We could also just do private breeding where superstat breeder's choose a day and I get it set up but that would be stressful for me and probably all of you to do so in a small time frame. @_@
Katty
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Joined: 4/16/2018
Threads: 226
Posts: 4,303
Posted: 5/6/2020 at 11:22 AM Post #8
He is great Eim ^-^ I look forward to getting his help with super aeris, I would love access to Esmie though too if that is still ok
Edited By Katty on 5/6/2020 at 11:59 AM.
Katty
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Joined: 4/16/2018
Threads: 226
Posts: 4,303
Posted: 5/6/2020 at 11:25 AM Post #9
GG those are 2v exclusives they cannot have traits mutated xD
GoldGryphon
Level 75
Guardian of the Realm
Joined: 1/28/2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 4,537
Posted: 5/6/2020 at 6:36 PM Post #10
Ugg, I am sorry, Imp (and Kat).... yes, I know the Exclusives can't be mutated. I shouldn't do these things so early in the morning! I am having a tough time getting used to 10hr shifts (>_<)

I do have 2 epic tamed, but they are Dawnbreakers, both are named Nero Dreamflare, strangely enough! But I see that you have come to some decisions, Eim. I think they are all very good ones as well! I get all my breeding help from my favorite breeding guru, Xav!

I am interested in breeding to your bred Aeri, but I really would love to breed to Esmie Raincaller with my Spring Moon males? And I am definitely willing to pay a good price for her services!
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