So, during the Winter Fest when philter prices fell through the floor on the broker, I kinda sorta took advantage of the situation and bought as many philters as possible and decided I wanted to do a max stat project with Sylvorpas since they're my favorite species. And also since I have a metric buttload of Sunsong Gazanias from when I absolutely unloaded last spring, I decided to go with that theme. This thread exists so that those following along with the project can keep up with how much progress I have made (there are spreadsheets involved outside of the thread lol).

Endgame offspring will eventually be put up for sale for those looking to kick******with lizardfish flower power. All contributors (I have a spreadsheet for that, too) will receive a free offspring of their choice, and there will be many choices as I also intend for this to be a multi-vis project with many different combinations.

The scope of this project is massive because I want it to be and because I can. Since the gene pool is (deliberately) wide, I will be doing this using my own breeding methods, which I will explain.


The Game Plan:

I started with a large, diverse population of Sunsong Gazanias with the intention of breeding each generation of offspring with only other offspring of that generation in order to retain inter-generational philter gains. With Gen 1, I boosted +5 Dexterity and established the breeding population for the rest of the project. With Gen 2, I boosted +5 Agility by breeding Gen 1 within itself. With Gen 3, I bred Gen 2 offspring with other Gen 2 offspring to begin narrowing down certain trait combinations, and once those babies hatched, I boosted +5 Intelligence. Gen 4, I boosted +5 Strength. At the end of these four generations, I have boosted all philterable traits +5 up to somewhere around 30 points each using only Lesser Philters. Let's call this portion of the project Phase 1.

Edit: After some careful stat analysis, I've decided to repeat three generations of Phase 1 to boost three philterable traits another +5 and allow nurture clicks to also pick up some of the slack in health stats. Thanks to all of my nurturers! ^^

For Phase 2, I'll be using greater philters. Since greater philters are way cheaper than prisma philters, the next four generations will be bumped up using the same method as the first four. After all the generations of Phase 1 and Phase 2, we should be halfway there on the four non-health base stats, with each at least 50.

Depending on how far down I have the population narrowed and how many prisma philters I have, I may repeat Phase 2, do a generation of "help the egg hatch" health stat boosting, or start on Phase 3, which should be both the quickest and the most expensive because then I'll be using pies and prisma philters.

All of my Statsongs are kept in this stable, and my hatchery contains few pets that aren't Statsong offspring. Any and all nurture clicks are appreciated! <3


Current Progress:

Phase 1
Generation 4

Health
Strength +5
Intelligence +5
Dexterity +5
Agility +5


Contributors:

Amarok
Celuwen
Faeyla
Frawn
Mist Dragon
Mohya
SpaceElf1*
Swirl
Zevria

Some traits exist within the Statsong population, while others do not. Certain traits I am either deliberately selecting for or actively purging from the population with each generation, and based on that I can take an educated guess as what some of the final outcomes will look like.

Projected Visible Trait Combinations:









These are definitely not set in stone, and there are very likely to be many more variations, but hopefully this can give y'all a general idea of where this is headed. This post may be edited in the future to include more traits.

Generational Stat Averages

To get a better idea of how exactly these philters are working and the direct impact of nurture clicks, I've compiled some statistics of the general Statsong population to share with those who are contributing, nurturing, or just plain curious about the process. As far as I'm aware, this is a wildly different model from what other users have done in the past.

The base stats for a Sunsong Gazania Sylvorpa without any nurturing or hatching intervention are 210, 22, 22, 22, 22. Most of the parent population had at least one stat increased through nurturing or hatching, and a few of the parents were offspring that I already had. Regardless, I'll be using the untouched stats as a baseline because going back and clicking through all of the lineages would take forever. Anyway, getting on with it:

Generation 0

Health 210
Strength 22
Intelligence 22
Dexterity 22
Agility 22


Generation 1

Philter added: Lesser Precision (+5 Dex)

Mean
Health 263.1
Strength 24.8
Intelligence 24.3
Dexterity 28.4
Agility 24.1

Median
Health 257
Strength 24
Intelligence 24
Dexterity 28
Agility 23

Mode
Health 250
Strength 24
Intelligence 24
Dexterity 27
Agility 23


Generation 2

Philter added: Lesser Nimbleness (+5 Agl)

Mean
Health 264.7
Strength 25.2
Intelligence 24.9
Dexterity 27.8
Agility 28.0

Median
Health 265
Strength 25
Intelligence 25
Dexterity 27, 28
Agility 28

Mode
Health 265
Strength 25
Intelligence 25
Dexterity 27
Agility 28


Generation 3

Philter added: Lesser Acumen (+5 Int)

Mean
Health 285.4
Strength 27.0
Intelligence 31.9
Dexterity 27.5
Agility 28.0

Median
Health 285
Strength 27
Intelligence 30
Dexterity 27
Agility 28

Mode
Health 280, 283
Strength 27
Intelligence 30
Dexterity 27
Agility 28


Generation 4

Philter added: Lesser Strength (+5 Str)

Mean
Health 301.6
Strength 32.0
Intelligence 30.6
Dexterity 28.9
Agility 28.5

Median
Health 303
Strength 32
Intelligence 30
Dexterity 29
Agility 29

Mode
Health 303
Strength 32
Intelligence 30
Dexterity 29
Agility 29



Total Average Increase from Nurturing Alone

Health 91.6
Strength 5.0
Intelligence 3.6
Dexterity 1.9
Agility 1.5


Conclusion? Four generations of nurture clicks can raise one non-health stat the equivalent of one lesser philter if all other non-health stats are boosted. Based on this knowledge, I'll be adjusting my approach to the next four generations of Statsongs.

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I'm SpaceElf1, the faithful Igor to Spark the Mad Statsong Scientist. Here are the Statsong's presently in my custody.

--Gen 1: Dex boosted--

"Dar Tarus"
Gene One: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWHealth 255
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWIWW..WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWStrength: 24
Gene Three: IridescenceWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 24
Mutation One: Sea Fur/Mystic FinsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 28
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWAgility: 23
Mutation Three: None
Offspring: Rojas, Han Du, 2338787


"378 J 493811 P"
Gene One: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWHealth 265
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWStrength: 25 (25)
Gene Three: Pollen Markings/Tidal RunesWWWiWWWWWWWWWIWIIntelligence: 24 (24)
Mutation One: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWDexterity: 24 (24)
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWAgility: 24 (24)
Mutation Three: Angler Lights
Offspring: Xaxa, O Ala, 2338788



"Gor Hajus"
Gene One: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWHealth 258
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWStrength: 24 (24)
Gene Three: Iridescence/Lotus LightsWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWIWIIntelligence: 24 (24)
Mutation One: Lionfish Spikes/Mystic FinsWWWWWiWWWWWWWIWIWDexterityv: 24 (24)
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWAgility: 23 (23)
Mutation Three: Angler Lights
Offspring:



"Lan O"
Gene One: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWHealth 251
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWStrength: 24 (24)
Gene Three: Lucky Runes/Lotus LIghtsWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWIWIIntelligence: 24 (24)
Mutation One: Lionfish SpikesWWWWWiWWWWWWWWIWIWDexterity: 24 (24)
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWAgility: 24 (24)
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:



"Gozava"
Gene One: MandarinfishWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHealth: 269
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWStrength: 25
Gene Three: Lotus LightsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 25
Mutation One: Lionfish SpikesWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 43
Mutation Two: Bio-luminescent WingsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAgility: 25
Mutation Three: None
Offspring: Olthar; Zuro.


--Gen 2: Dex boosted--

"Xaxa"
Statsong i''JJcf Gen2's daughter by 378 J 493811 P.
Gene One: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWHealth: 285
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWStrength: 27 (27)
Gene Three: Tidal RunesWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWWWIntelligence: 26 (26)
Mutation One: Mystic FinsWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWDexterity: 29 (29)
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWAgility: 27 (27)
Mutation Three: None
Offspring: Han Du; Kamlot.



"Rojas"
Statsong rbbEI'' Gen2's daughter by Dar Tarus.
Gene One: ClownfishWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWHealth 261
Gene Two: Poison DartWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWStrength: 26
Gene Three: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWIntelligence: 25
Mutation One: Lionfish Spikes/Sea FurWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWDexterity: 33
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWAgility: 25
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:


--Gen 2.5: Dex boosted--


"O Ala"
Rojas's daughter by 378 J 493811 P.
Gene One: ClownfishWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWHealth 282
Gene Two: Poison DartWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWStrength: 27
Gene Three: Tidal RunesWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 27
Mutation One: Lionfish SpikesWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 32
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIWIWWWWWWAgility: 27
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:




"Han Du"
Xaxa's son by Dar Tarus
Gene One: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWHealth 277
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWWWWStrength: 26
Gene Three: Tidal RunesWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 26
Mutation One: Sea FurWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 33
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWAgility: 26
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:



"Olthar"
Gozava's son by Orange Tiedye.
Gene One: Mandarinfish/ClownfishWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHealth: 280
Gene Two: Achilles TangWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWStrength: 27
Gene Three: Iridescence/Lotus LightsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 26
Mutation One: Lionfish Spikes/Mystic FinsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 52
Mutation Two: Splash WingsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAgility: 26
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:


--Gen 3: Dex boosted--


"Kamlot"
Xaxa's son by Statsong eEG'ic' Gen2.
Gene One: LionfishWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWHealth: 295
Gene Two: Clown TriggerfishWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWStrength: 29
Gene Three: Tidal RunesWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 29
Mutation One: Sea FurWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 49
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWiWWWWWWWWWAgility: 28
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:



"Duran"
O Ala's son by Han Du.
Gene One: ClownfishWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHealth: 297
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWStrength: 29
Gene Three: Tidal RunesWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 28
Mutation One: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 53
Mutation Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAgility: 28
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:



"Zuro"
Gozava's daughter by Han Du.
Gene One: MandarinfishWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHealth: 292
Gene Two: NoneWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWStrength: 28
Gene Three: Lotus LightsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIntelligence: 27
Mutation One: Lionfish Spikes/Sea FurWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDexterity: 62
Mutation Two: Bio-luminescent WingsWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAgility: 27
Mutation Three: None
Offspring:

Generation 4 has been birthed! I've also done some back breeding to include Spotted Drum and Poison Dart in the gene pool.

Gen 4 is about a week away from being old enough to breed, and trait combinations are looking good! Meanwhile, these four little mid-generation oddballs need some love clicks:


Also, I've been thinking it over, and looking at my philter stock, I don't have quite enough regular (+20) stat philters and prisma philters to start using them. This is only a minor setback, though. I still have several lesser philters, and I've been noticing a very pleasant rising phenomenon in the stat bumps through each generation. I'm running some averages right now, and I'll have those posted later to show what I mean.

Edit: Stats have been dumped upthread.

Gen 5 is incubating! :D

In the interest of economics and based on the philters I have on hand, I'll be pumping them with another round of +5 Dexterity. This also gives me some flexibility to toss a few duds out, which is something I haven't been doing so far. I'll probably toss a coin for whether Agility or Intelligence gets bumped next.

Thank you for all the nurture clicks you've been giving! I know it gets tedious after a while and I'm breeding a lot of them, so just know that it's very much appreciated. <3

Hey, Spark, did you forget about me? I have some of the Statsongs, and some of the donated Philters.