I suggested this once before and kinda got shot down, can't find that thread again (there needs to be a search function on this forum, I think), but after breeding my Arctic Storms to 6 vis, I will say this again; I think we need some kind of tag on purebred pets. I know there is a geneology thing coming, that would be great too, but some people like me like to cross my pets with those of others. It is EXTREMELY tedious using the search function for that, and having to guess which pets are purebreds for the tags you want, and having to go back through sometimes 4 or five layers of parents on each side. Since for some pets there are hundreds of pages of pets available for breeding from 1gold on up to millions, with NO rhyme nor reason to how that is set or any other way to sort them, I basically don't want to breed most tagged pets for lack of stable space to do so.
I guess from the other thread I created people think that keeping the tag on purebreds would somehow diminish the value of the tagged pets (I honestly don't understand why, but ok, I'll let that go...), so how about a "Purebred" tag added on to the beginning of the tag, for search purposes? In other words, caught pets would have the "Arctic Storm" tag, purebred pets from those parents would then get maybe a "PB Arctic Storm" tag. This way purebred offspring I hope would have a higher market value, and if you want to breed them you can easily find them.
And to make it so that this wouldn't double the number of tags you have to scroll through, this could possibly be a category you can click on? Like the one to click if you want to see all Females set for a breeding price, or only those available to breed now? In other words the purebreds would only show if you ask them to be shown.
Or maybe a tag is the wrong way to do this, I dunno. That just seems to be the way it is set up already, so a tag for purebred seems a relatively easy way to do it. I just want to be able to search pets that are breedable, who are purebred the same way you can search for traits.
I would be much more interested in breeding Tagged pets if I didn't have to first beg borrow or steal a tab full, just to be sure I kept the line pure. You can only go so far with caught pets if you want to get to a six vis result. This would just open this up for breeding to a larger group of interested people, without some of the headaches we have to deal with now. Even if you post on the forums for prospective mates (and I'm sorry, but not all of us like to do that), you still have to check and double check everything. This kind of Purebred Tag would make that easier to deal with, and more secure.
Yumi123
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Posted: 1/6/2015 at 5:18 PM
Post #2
I've seen this suggestion pop up a number of times. I don't know about diminishing value, but I do know that this would be difficult to put into effect. There are currently over a million pets. The admins would have to go through all of them to see which ones were purebred and then add in the title where it's appropriate. There might be behind-the-scenes ways to make that easier, but as you've stated, those lines go WAY back. And this isn't something that they can turn on like they turned on the little icon for dyed pets- where only pets dyed after a certain point have the icon. In order for the PB title to be worthwhile, it'll need to be implemented from the start of a breeding line so that pets down the line can have it.
I'd just say wait for the heritage feature to be put out. Maybe the admins will add visible tags on that page that would make finding out if a pet is PB easier to see. Maybe a similar search feature will be implemented in the future but for right now, the admins are working on other things. I know I would appreciate such a feature. I've got a few tagged that I really want to breed but few of that themed are up for breeding or the price is just NO THANK YOU! I'm absolutely open to breeding with PBs but they're really hard to find.
Greenmann
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Posted: 1/6/2015 at 10:34 PM
Post #3
The geneology charts will certainly help once they are implemented, but they only help once you have found a pet. They don't help actually searching for that pet, which is the feature I most want. I know this would be difficult to retrofit, but I don't think it's impossible. But then, I'm not a programmer, lol.
Bmrbgttyjjl
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Posted: 1/7/2015 at 12:11 AM
Post #4
I think this is a good idea. Maybe just a small symbol like the thing that says that the pet has been mutated....
Alchemy
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Posted: 1/7/2015 at 8:49 AM
Post #5
Perhaps another idea would be to actually see a genealogy tree (a link) on a pets page that goes back up to 5 generations. You'd be able to see each ancestor with their name and a tag if themed. Making the pet clickable to take you to the pet page would be a good idea too.
Basically, clicking the link would take you to a chart like this (but with pet pics)
Junco
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Posted: 1/7/2015 at 10:30 AM
Post #6
Were this to ever be implemented (like all new things that they keep track of, I imagine it would not be retroactive), I always thought that the "symbol" on the page could be the name of the theme, like the taggeds have, but in the "rare" blue instead of "epic" purple. :V
Savynn
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Posted: 1/7/2015 at 2:28 PM
Post #7
I would love to see some way to easily see if an offspring is purebred or not, but we also have the problem of not all themed pets actually being tagged. All the original reindeer qitairi, the valentine and chocolate bulbories, and all of the first spring festival themes are not tagged. But retroactively going back and figuring out which ones are which for tagging purposes would probably be really difficult.
But anyway, this could actually lead to circumstances of a purebred offspring not showing up as purebred just because you bred a reindeer qitari from this year to the first year's ones.
Still, it's something that I'd love to see maybe someday. It would definitely be really convenient as we have longer and longer generations of pets to track.
Aliciahou
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Posted: 1/7/2015 at 2:41 PM
Post #8
I support. I'd like to be able to identify pets better, and even if we can't make all the old ones be tagged, at least it'd be nice to be able to see them in the future.
Greenmann
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Posted: 1/8/2015 at 4:41 PM
Post #9
I would love to see the geneology thing too, but as I said, that only covers CHECKING on a pet to see whether it is purebred or not. I want some way to SEARCH for it, even if that means that it only works on newer pets. Seems to me the two functions go hand in hand. I'm not a coder, so I don't know how difficult it would be to do this for all pets, but it certainly would be nice to do for any newly generated pets, bred or caught. I'd be happy to settle for something like this on new pets, just to have the function operating, but pie in the sky optimistically hope it can be implemented for all pets. And maybe the tags added to the original ones that don't have them while they are at it, lol.
With some kind of purebred tag AND the geneology set up, it would open up a whole new world of game play for breeding. I mean, on Dragoncave, breeding patterns with the dragons is a huge reason a lot of people breed on that game. It's different here cause you can't cross breed Sylesti, but I could see geneologies popping up where the fathers are all tagged but the mothers aren't, or that they are purebred from a certain variation (like a darker or lighter body color) pushing the usual coloring out of phase without a philter.
Incidentally, once the geneology is implemented, I don't see any reason it can't keep track of the whole family tree. It might have to treat all pre-existing Sylesti as "caught" in the sense it won't track back before its implemented, but at least from that point on it should be easy enough to just tack another line on. I've seen the breeding history on dragons in Drag Cave going back 13 generations. It's just a matter of putting the two parents together so it shouldn't be that hard to do. Unless its retroactive, but even in that case its getting it implemented to start with that is hard, not keeping track of it afterwards.
Divinis
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Posted: 1/10/2015 at 10:34 AM
Post #10
@Junco - love that idea.
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