We just had a Region Chat discussion of how Sylesties inherit "Wild Stats"--that is, the extra stats that appear after "+" for Sylesties that come from The Lost Grove.

Nobody seems to be 100% sure. So let's find out!

Post freely your results, ideas, project tracking, hopes, objections, and arguments.

well i have this idea of making tails from sonic the hedgehog as a zolnixi but im worried i make his colors wrong and stuff

So far, the only thing that seems certain is that the Wild Stat of an offspring cannot exceed the highest corresponding Wild Stat of either parent.

Below are two pets and their offspring. Both parents have Wild Stats.


Jack and Pride

Health ___________ +921 ___________ Mean +891 __________ +861
Strength __.________ +63 ____________ Mean +76 ___________ +59
Intelligence ___..____ +55 ____________ Mean +53.5 _______.__ +52
Dexterity __________ +41 ____________ Mean +40 ___________ +39
Agility _______._____ +51 ____________ Mean +49.5 ____._____ +48


#7046593

Health +877
Strength +61
Intelligence +53
Dexterity +39
Agility +49


#7046593's Health Wild Stat is less than Jack's Wild Stat and less than the parents' Mean Wild Stat but greater than Pride's Wild Stat.
In contrast, #7046593's Strength Wild Stat is less than Pride's Wild Stat, the parents' Mean Wild Stat, and even Jack's Wild Stat.
#7046593's Intelligence Wild Stat is less than Jack's Wild Stat and less than the parents' Mean Wild Stat but greater than Pride's Wild Stat.
#7046593's Dexterity is less than Jack's Wild Stat and less than the parents' Mean Wild Stat but equal to Pride's Wild Stat.
#7046593's Agility Wild Stat is less than Jack's Wild Stat and less than the parents' Mean Wild Stat but greater than Pride's Wild Stat.

In each instance, the Offspring's Wild Stat is below the highest Parental Wild Stat and below the Mean Wild Stat.

Here are two more Superstat Sylesties and their offspring. Unlike the previous pair, one of these parents has zeroes in Wild Stats.

Mason and SS 2v4c 1571 79

Health ________________ +0 ________ Mean +141.5 __________ +283
Strength ________.______ +0______.____ Mean +8.5 ___________ +17
Intelligence _.______.____ +0 _________ Mean +10.5 ___________ +21
Dexterity ______________ +0 _________ Mean +13.5 ___________ +27
Agility __________.______ +0______.____ Mean +8.5 ___________ +17


SS 3v3c 2000 100

Health +238
Strength +14
Intelligence +19
Dexterity +23
Agility +13


SS 3v3c 2000 100's Health Wild Stat is less than SS 2v4c 1571 79's Wild Stat but greater than the parents' Mean Wild Stat and greater than Mason's Wild Stat.
SS 3v3c 2000 100's Strength Wild Stat is less than SS 2v4c 1571 79's Wild Stat but greater than the parents' Mean Wild Stat and greater than Mason's Wild Stat.
SS 3v3c 2000 100's Intelligence Wild Stat is less than SS 2v4c 1571 79's Wild Stat but greater than the parents' Mean Wild Stat and greater than Mason's Wild Stat.
SS 3v3c 2000 100's Dexterity Wild Stat is less than SS 2v4c 1571 79's Wild Stat but greater than the parents' Mean Wild Stat and greater than Mason's Wild Stat.
SS 3v3c 2000 100's Agility Wild Stat is less than SS 2v4c 1571 79's Wild Stat but greater than the parents' Mean Wild Stat and greater than Mason's Wild Stat.

In each instance, the Offspring's Wild Stat is below the highest Parental Wild Stat but above the Mean Wild Stat.

It's all random as rng is. It rolls from both parents stats, it rolls from the highest stat possibility and rolls down from there. I had notes on what the highest possible roll under hp, mana and sida was, they might be at home. Meantime feel free to look at any of my supers. Alot of them are bred to normal max star. If wild stats were derived from an average of both wild stats, children of legendary would look alot less impressive xD

But it isn't utterly random, Katty. For example, the offspring's Wild Stat will never be higher than the Wild Stat of the parent whose Wild Stat is the greater of the two parents' stats. (Example: a father with Health Wild Stat +50 and a mother with Health Wild Stat +55 cannot have an offspring whose Health Wild Stat is +56--and I think it is impossible for the offspring to have Health Wild Stat as high as +55.)

The specific thing that prompted me to create this thread was when it seemed that some Superstat Sylesti breeders thought an offspring benefited if only one parent had any Wild Stats at all, while others thought one would get the best results if both parents had Wild Stats.

BTW, would you please explain what you mean by "It rolls from both parents' stats (emphasis mine)"? Apologies, but I don't understand.

Ok the rng rolls from a range and the result can be random. Ok i will use this girl as my first example. She is a themed legendary


953 / 953 (105 + 810)
0 / 329 (200 + 129)
Strength: 100 (11 + 87)
Intelligence: 72 (10 + 60)
Dexterity: 75 (11 + 62)
Agility: 100 (12 + 86)

The BEST i have gotten from her stats wise seems to be:

+ 750
+ 118
Strength: + 84
Intelligence: + 58
Dexterity: + 59
Agility: + 83


This is from 20+ offspring

Ok next example This is Ember, will be my future fire trainee when she hits teen



Stats
Health: 2000 + 924
Mana: 200 + 124
Strength: 100 + 74
Intelligence: 100 + 76
Dexterity: 100 + 78
Agility: 100 + 74

Her parents are grandbaby of vexx rikki (mother) and son of vexx rikki (father)
Mama
Health: +968
Mana: + 109

Strength:+ 77
Intelligence: + 71
Dexterity: + 73
Agility:+ 76

Papa
Health: + 893
Mana: + 136

Strength:+ 57
Intelligence: + 80
Dexterity: + 80
Agility: + 75

So this is where it gets interesting. I was trying to get a perfect mix of stats from mother and father and i feel like i could have gotten better mana but the rest are pretty great

Ok so now to explain how she got her stats. Rng rolled on what each of her stats could be. So each parent will contribute their best stat so i am pulling from the following:

Health: +968 < Mother
Mana:+ 136 < Father
Strength: + 77 < Mother
Intelligence: + 80 < Father
Dexterity: + 80 < Father
Agility:+ 76 < Mother

After that its upto rng to roll the range of drop from each stat. What the range is, we dont know but its not an average of the two parents. It is dependant on each parents stats and the range in which it can drop.

Papa's parents:
Mother
HP: +462
Mana: + 0
Strength:+ 27
Intelligence: + 31
Dexterity: + 27
Agility: + 31

Father
HP: +963
Mana:+ 144
Strength:+ 61
Intelligence: + 84
Dexterity: + 84
Agility: + 78

His stats again

Health: + 893
Mana: + 136

Strength:+ 57
Intelligence: + 80
Dexterity: + 80
Agility: + 75

So he experienced the following loss of stats when rng rolled

Health: 70
Mana: 8

Strength: 4
Intelligence: 4
Dexterity: 4
Agility: 3

His stats have rolled entirely from his father. If his mother had higher wild stats they would come into play but they werent anywhere near the father so rng ignored them.

Conclusion from many years of breeding projects: The stats of each parent comes into play but not both at the same time for the same stat. If each parent had the same in each stat, the drop would still happen as it drops between x and x. Only infusing the line with fresh breeds back to the legendary/vexx rikki is going to increase the stats again. I hope i answered all your questions but feel free to ping me if you have follow up

Also in the above example of Jack and Pride

Jack and Pride

Health ___________ +921 ___________ Mean +891 __________ +861
Strength __.________ +63 ____________ Mean +76 ___________ +89
Intelligence ___..____ +55 ____________ Mean +53.5 _______.__ +52
Dexterity __________ +41 ____________ Mean +40 ___________ +39
Agility _______._____ +51 ____________ Mean +49.5 ____._____ +48

Prides strength is 59 not 89. You wouldnt see 89 strength on a nyte as i know they havent hit stats like that

https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=6429739 < the legendary birb that contributed to both Jack and Pride's line

As you can see from above, the legendary nyte doesnt even have stats that high :) thats why the range doesnt work for that pair. RNG rolled +63 from Jack and gave +61

Thanx for pointing out the typo in my listing of Pride's Strength Wild Stat and for reminding me to include Mana as a Wild Stat. Katty.

More later when I have a chance to study your data--right now I'm trying to defeat just one more Temple boss, LOL!

I have one big question and no one seems to have already answered it...
If the kid's wild stats can't be higher than the highest parent, how in the heck do you breed to super??? It sounds like each kid would just get worse to me! What am I missing?
(Also please ping me because otherwise I'll totally miss a reply)