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SpaceElf1
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Posted: 7/23/2016 at 4:27 PM
Post #1511
Mohya is right, SG. Fairy Wings, the Spring Waters have them.
My name is Taniwha.
There's also Lotus Lights--
Hi! I'm Misiganebic, but you can call me Missy.
I'm presently working to figure out whether 2014 SW Sylvorpas are identical to the 2015 SW Sylvorpas. Anyone already know? You could save me some math.
Also, before anyone uses Greater Mutators to achieve traits like Blue Tang, there is at least one not-yet-Regenerated SW Vorpa set for public sale, and there may be more than one (I wasn't paying close attention--just looking for natural Epics).
Mohya is right, SG. Fairy Wings, the Spring Waters have them.
My name is Taniwha.
There's also Lotus Lights--
Hi! I'm Misiganebic, but you can call me Missy.
I'm presently working to figure out whether 2014 SW Sylvorpas are identical to the 2015 SW Sylvorpas. Anyone already know? You could save me some math.
Also, before anyone uses Greater Mutators to achieve traits like Blue Tang, there is at least one not-yet-Regenerated SW Vorpa set for public sale, and there may be more than one (I wasn't paying close attention--just looking for natural Epics).
Mohya is right, SG. Fairy Wings, the Spring Waters have them.
My name is Taniwha.
There's also Lotus Lights--
Hi! I'm Misiganebic, but you can call me Missy.
I'm presently working to figure out whether 2014 SW Sylvorpas are identical to the 2015 SW Sylvorpas. Anyone already know? You could save me some math.
Also, before anyone uses Greater Mutators to achieve traits like Blue Tang, there is at least one not-yet-Regenerated SW Vorpa set for public sale, and there may be more than one (I wasn't paying close attention--just looking for natural Epics).
I never noticed before but there is a difference. The gene 3 color is different. It got switched from a dark teal to a light yellow.
Comparison of an older one that was epic when caught (narrowing the swing) and a more recent one.
Btw, I only pinged you, SpaceElf. Not sure if I should have pinged anyone else on this.
SpaceElf1
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Posted: 7/23/2016 at 5:38 PM
Post #1514
Whoa, you're right, Sav! No math needed at all; the Collector's Edition and Modern Spring Waters have one very distinct difference. (And I think everyone will see your post.)
SG, you just had your work doubled, I'm afraid. Taniwha and Missy are both Collector's Edition, so the Modern SW Sylvorpas still lack Fairy Wings and Lotus Lights.
For anyone who'd like to see what this difference actually looks like, here's 2014 compared to 2015--
2014 ---------------------------------------------------- 2015
"Mirror Soak" ---------------------------------------------------- "Dexie"
(both Un-named)
(both Un-named; the 2014 also has Vis Lionfish)
Edit: Since we seem to have such a shortage of CE Spring Water Vorpas, Missy and Taniwha decided it was about time--
Edited By SpaceElf1 on 7/23/2016 at 5:55 PM.
Taptothebeat
Level 72
Cutely Creative
Joined: 1/12/2013
Threads: 212
Posts: 3,658
Posted: 7/24/2016 at 11:44 AM
Post #1515
These two are so pretty!~
Is there anyone who is breeding that I could buy from? o:
Frawn
Level 75
High Druid
Joined: 10/4/2014
Threads: 56
Posts: 2,516
Posted: 7/25/2016 at 2:06 AM
Post #1516
So Spark...if I were to have a wishlist Spring Water baby...it may look something like this:
...just gonna toss that out there... *>.>
Everyone else, thanks for buyin' up my Emperor babes! ^.^ Was there anyone that wanted one and didn't get one?
SparklingGanymede
Level 60
Mojo Master
Joined: 3/15/2015
Threads: 29
Posts: 552
Posted: 7/25/2016 at 5:31 AM
Post #1517
I'll keep that in mind! ^^
SparklingGanymede
Level 60
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Joined: 3/15/2015
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Posts: 552
Posted: 7/25/2016 at 7:28 AM
Post #1518
To be honest, I'm less concerned with getting each trait in both color sets than I am with simply getting the traits in general because (1) I don't think it's possible and (2) mixing the two isn't an inherently bad thing that will ruin the breed purity. If anything, I'd embrace the fact that breeding for color as well as traits could be a new challenge. This is a game, after all.
Just like pet shows in real life adhere to an established set of breed standards, we as a community could establish what we're willing to accept as a standard for certain themes. In this case, two variations on a theme. It's not at all impossible for a 2014 SW to breed with a 2015 SW and the offspring come out with one or the other's color hex, leaving little or no evidence of there ever having been a cross breed.
For example:
This guy's G3 is close to the teal shade of his father's G3, possibly even within the color swing for 2014. His mom's G3 is a very light yellow, almost white. (I added Saltwater Betta to his image to illustrate. It's almost the same shade as his C1, which is probably why that color slot was changed.)
Also with my randomized smooshing, I've seen some lovely shades of green in between the color swings, and they range anywhere from electric to aqua. The percentage of 2014 to 2015 heritage seems to have a direct influence on which shade comes out on average, which makes numerical sense, but I haven't noticed that breeding a mixed G3 with a tagged makes any difference, which seems to go against anecdotal claims that tagged color hexes are more dominant. I've been combing through my stables and my released pets over the last couple days to track it, and from what I've seen, a green G3 could either be bred out in one generation or persist for three or more.
Some examples:
This little turd (Let's call him Ur) is the son of a 2015 father and 2014 mother. His G3 is almost the same shade as his C1, although slightly greener.
Ur had a son (Let's call him Babel) with a 2015 purebred, and his G3 came out like this:
It's got a slight hint of green in it but may very well be within the swing for 2015. Babel mated with a 2015 purebred, and what came out was...
You would never know there was ever a 2014 in her lineage.
This family tree gets more fun, though, because Babel has a brother by Ur from a different 2015 mother:
Let's call him Canaan. Canaan has three sons. One fairly standard-looking offspring by a 2015 purebred mother:
And two by another lovely 3/4 greener we'll call Kemmet...
Her G3's a pretty solid mint green from her own convoluted mixture, and I personally think it looks quite lovely. Here are Canaan and Kemmet's two beautiful children:
By comparison, Kemmet has two other children, one by a 2015 purebred father and one by a 2015 tagged father:
For the record, Kemmet's father was the half she gets her green from, and her mother was a purebred 2015, making her (3/4) 2015. Here's her father:
Kemmet also has one grandchild via her daughter (7/8) from the 2015 purebred father:
The father is a tagged 2015, which makes him (15/16) 2015. If that G3 isn't within 2015's color swing, I'll eat my hat.
By now, your head's probably spinning (I know mine is), and you may have forgotten where I was going with this all this (I did) but, basically, I probably won't bother with fussing over getting each trait twice. Color swings aside, who knows how many more new traits there will be? We've got a limited stock of Spring Waters, and breeding out the green is entirely possible, so we might as well keep an open mind about the future of vorpa traits and the flexibility of color variations within a pedigree.
Besides, don't these traits look really cool in green?
How many other themes that have been altered can you even do this with?
Frawn
Level 75
High Druid
Joined: 10/4/2014
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Posts: 2,516
Posted: 7/25/2016 at 12:58 PM
Post #1519
Whew, such Spring Water!
In other news, I have a Smoothie for sale:
SOLD!
Edited By Frawn on 7/27/2016 at 3:23 PM.
Starline
Level 71
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Joined: 3/14/2016
Threads: 97
Posts: 1,833
Posted: 7/26/2016 at 5:41 PM
Post #1520
4 trait all carried lillypad
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=2515532
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