I love Sylestia, but I am a very impatient person. So why don't I blurt out my thoughts on the ageing process here.

It's slow. Wildly slow. Pathetically slow. I mean, it shouldn't take 27 days for an un-nurtured pet to get from a just-born to an adult. That's silly. Sure, I mean, it's supposed to be realistic, but c'mon. I say we should shorten it to 10 days, if not 15, if not, even 20 would be better. Or even get rid of the adolescent stage entirely, or partially. I know every breeder on Sylestia would be outraged if the hatchling or eggling stage was removed or shortened (I know I would be) because it leaves less time to nurture. Now, tell me, what is the purpose of the adolescent stage? Sure, it makes it seem more realistic, but to me, it just feels like it's there for me to wait endlessly for it to grow up. I love breeding, I once had 15 pages of hatchery pets, but I think people would be more inclined to release their pets which, in turn, could completely bring back the Sylestian Economy.

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I personally like having a longer time as an adolescent. It gives me some extra time to re arrange my pets and plan out if they are good for breeding, if they will be sold, or if I want to raise them to release them for LG themed boost.

this is in no way going to help the economy. pets growing faster=more adults=more breeding, and overpopulation will get way worse then it already is. no support.

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to agree with Encryption on this one. The economy is bad enough, and making this would only have it be worse. Sorry :(

I have to go with Lostcry and Encryption on this. I think the only way to even start to save it would to stop letting newbies have themes because they mass breed and sell them at low prices and it keeps going. A week or two ago my Spectral Vene was worth at least 500k and now she's down at 200k to try and compete with the 90k and below prices.

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=85756&page=1#3 Author: Encryption Time Posted: 2/3/2020 at 10:59 PM this is in no way going to help the economy. pets growing faster=more adults=more breeding, and overpopulation will get way worse then it already is. no support.

No support, I agree with this

I'm the opposide of this. I feel many newbies are being excluded in a lot of things because they don't have as much acces to things yet like gold. Breeding is one of the only ways they can get income worthwhile before they get to the gold making parts. Also newbies are entiteld to own fun themed pets as much as anyone else. And selling and breeding cheap is also a way for people to have more acces to pets and traits that would otherwise have remained to expensive for them.

I feel less sad about people making less gold, then I do about people not being able to own nice themed pets or rare traits. But I care more about anyone having acces to everything, then buy to get best stuff policies.

I'm not fond of the richest get best stuff only way of sylestia sometimes. I'm protective of newbies and poor players and will defend their right to own nice stuff on this place. Including themed pets, including the fun aspects of breeding.

If Sylestia wants to fight the economy problems here they should do so by making pets infertile or releasing them much more rewarding. If it gives new players (or any players) more benefit to release or make their pets infertile then to sell them a lot of them will probably stop doing that after the new excitement of it goes down. (Most new new players will mass breed and sell, because thats FUN and new and people want to try it out before they start to find their direction in this game).

Another way this problem of to much pets for sale/breeding problem could go down, is to simply limit the players (all players, rich and poor alike) how many pets they can have up for breeding or selling at a time.

Like you can have 10 pets total up for breeding tops, and 10 pets total up for sale tops. you could still make forum pages offering pets up for sale, or make SALE tabs where people can contact other players if they are interested in any pets in those tabs. But this way there will be lots of pets less for sale and breeding at the same time as a lot of selling and breeding would go trough the forums/profile pages and direct communnication. As it would with REAL breeding and selling of pets. Peopl usualy contact eachother and not just buy click stuff. So to make the sylesties more like actual animals, and less digital fast click incomes, this could be a solution.

A limit on how many pets you can sell and offer for breeding at once for EVERY player is fair and solves the problem withoud excluding anyone. At least trough the advanced search.

This also makes people more carefull on what pets they put up for sale to begin with, and how much they breed at all If you can only sell 10 at a time, people would probably not breed 50 or 100 pets for fun withoud the stable space to hold them. And if they did, they would probably release them or have them forcefully released. Which would organise the advanced search big time.

breeding low vis or ugly colored pets is not going to give alot of gold. you can do missions from the beginning, which is literaly just sending a pet off for a few hrs and getting free gold. iirc the highest levels give as much as 12000g, which is so much more then the 1-100gold you would get selling random pets.

what do you mean by newbies get excluded? if you work hard for it newbies can have more gold then a vet player. i know ppl who played for years who still havent made it to the lost grove, and new players who reached it in 2-3 days. the entire game is not pay to play anywhere, its work to earn what you want.

making sylestis more like animals makes the population worse. so many newbies dont want to release their unwanted pets, even if they fill up stable space and dont have any purpose, just bc of emotional attachement. the only point i agree w/ is that releasing/inferting needs to be encouraged, and i dont see how making it harder to buy pets will do that.

i dont like the idea of pets ageing faster, i absolutely hate the idea of restricting #of breeding pets. this is a horrible idea bc it will be unfair to every single breeder, new or old. you want more access to rare things, how is only letting ppl sell 10 pets at a time going to let you get that? and if you force everyone to talking before buying, how will someone know wether that pet they want is even for sell or not? it makes the selling process so much slower andd not convenient.

I think you may have misunderstood something. There is no restricting of breeding pets. You could still breed as many pets as you like. The difference is you can only PUT UP a restricted amount of pets for easy breading. That is trough the advanced search.

You could stil easely put up many more pets for breeding on forum pages and your profile page. It's just would have to set it up individualy for the people interested.

Also newbie's get excluded in the sense that if they are new they do not have a lot of gold yet. Yes you can get to a point where you can earn a lot of gold this is true. But sometimes fests happen before you reached that point and newbies miss out on a ton of fest contend because of that. Also fest OFTEN have the best stuff hidden behind diamond purchases. This includes chances of owning special themed pets. Trough regular fest exploring you can sometimes find some tamed themed. Or things you need to make a pet you like. But if you spend 0 diamonds, and don't have enough gold to buy diamonds to buy the exclusive themed and/or items you miss out on a lot a fest has to offer.

I have spoken with many newbies back before my hiatus who felt like this. So I feel themed pets with special traits very much so need to be more available to new AND poor players. Not only players who can buy stuff with real money, or have so much time on their hands they can sink hours into sylestia to make a lot of gold. Some people have full time jobs, family members to take care off, school with lots of studying and responsibilities. And for these people it's ALSO fun to own pets with special traits. Therefore I am not pro

I actualy don't like the idea of pets aging faster either. I never argued for that. I'm fine with the aging as it is.

To counter your points. Low vis or ugly collors is subjective. What you may find ugly others may find beautifull. Also low vis isn't always a bad thing. I have actualy started a new project with only 3 vis because more vis just made the pet look crowded and ugly. Not saying your wrong in that low vis has less fans, but it's not like low vis is a problem for everyone. Different folks different strokes.

You can do missions from the beginning. But the early missions don't give much gold at all. You need to progress to pretty much to where the game is at this point to make some decent gold in missions only. And this does take some time. Especialy for people who have limited time to play the game. While the newbies are bridging this gap it wouldn't hurt for others to help them get nice things that are harder to get untill they can stand on their own and have acces to the same gold input as everyone else. Also the highest levels give 7.500 k if your pets did exceptionaly. Mission satchels can give you more, they can also give you crap.
Newbies also need to level up mission pets before they can really start earning gold as well. They can't just start sending random pets they captured or bred. Well they could, but odds are the pets would fail or only do well enough for the lower rewards. Training mission pets to high level takes time.

Making sylesties more like animals makes the population worse? I don't understand. I never said that sylesties should be more like animals. I said that SELLING and BREEDING them should become more like how people sell and breed animals. Trough actual contact between the people. So there is less clutter on the advanced search. People putting so many pets up for breeding and selling is a problem. Not only among new players, but high end players as well who sometimes have several pages with nothing but the same multu visible trait visible pet for sale multiple times.. they could just as easely just put one up for sale, or one of each gender, THEN put another one for sale instead of putting the same type of pet for sale multiple times. If people are restricted in how many pets they put up for breeding or selling at once, it would decrease the clutter and make the advanced search more compact. Meanwhile the forums can still be used to sell and breed way more then the restricted amount you can put in easy sell/breeding.

Also newbies filling their stables with pets they don't use and restrict stable space is not a problem in the slightest, neither are emotional attatchments. I have 3 tabs of old nixi's that I still have for no other reason then emotional attatchments. the problem lies in putting them on breeding or sale. But people who keep pets for emotional reasons don't put those pets on sale to begin with anyway. So if they don't put those pets up for breeding either, there is literaly no problem. What people keep in their stables and why is their buisness. But we should be more picky on which pets we put up for breeding. And a way for people to get more picky about what they put up for breeding is restricting it.

But not literal as in you can only breed pets 10 times and then all your pets can't breed for the rest of the day. Nothing like that. Just like you put up 10 active pets for breeding. And everything else trough forum pages. And if anyone wants to breed a pet of yours not part of the 10 you can simply put ont of the 10 off of breeding, and put the requested one on. So basicly you could still breed as much as you want before and with the pets you could before. There is no REAL restrictment in that sense. It just forces people to put more efford into it, and be more picky about it, which will actualy make people more considerate about what they breed and when and why.

Same is true for selling. People complain a lot about how there are to many pets for sale, yet breeders keep on fighting for the right to sell a huge amount of pets at the same time... the problem can not ever be solved this way. Also like I said before breeders can in fact still sell as much as they always have. They would just have to do the selling by hand. Like you put a forum page up with all the pets you sell, or simply a link to your stables that have tabs with pets your selling. And people can contact you, and you set them up for them. Breeders would NOT be making any less sales. They would simply take up less space in the advanced search. And the newbies who like to mass breed because yay new game new fun gimmicks lets test it out and see what pets look like omg fun, will also be restricted this way in how many of those type of pets end up for sale and or breeding. You can't combat overpopulation selectively. Breeders and newbies both have an equal amount of right to breed and sell their pets for whatever price they want. The only way to solve the problem of overbreeding and overselling is if something is done about the amount of pets being allowed to be sold and or bred the easy/lazy way. The less easy/lazy way is still available, and trough that people can sell much much more then just the restriction on the amount of easy/lazy selling and/or breeding. And newbies actualy get encouraged to seek contact with experienced players this way as well. To contact breeders about buying pets, perhaps even get some advice and friendly tips in the process.

The selling process would be slower. Thats also kind of the point. Because it's slower it's harder and requires more efford, which will affect and result in much fewer pets for sale the easy way, which means that people selling pets nobody wants anyway, will decrease, while pets everyone wants will keep on being sold because breeders can make a name for themselves on the forums.

Breeders can unite in such a system as well, making up pages together where they point people in eachothers direction. Like if you look for themed puffs go there, if you look for this go to this person etc. And people actively selling pets on forums will find people who really want those pets anyway. And when you sell in person, you can request stuff like please don't resell or breed and sell the babies. Which you can't do with easy/lazy selling.