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Forum Index > Q&A (Newbie Friendly) > How to defet the boss in the lsot tome
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Darkness765
Level 60
Joined: 10/20/2018
Threads: 4
Posts: 31
Posted: 12/15/2018 at 10:07 PM Post #1
I've done everything like new amour tried my best to give my pet's more level and power but ive died 15 times so what am i do wrong? plz tell me
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 83
Posts: 4,149
Posted: 12/16/2018 at 1:03 AM Post #2
Desius in the forgotten tomb?
It's easiest if you've activated all the orbs to weaken him beforehand.

You might need to go over your team, though.

Probably easiest if you're using Tank/Healer/Attacker setup, though you could probably also use Tank/Attacker/Attacker?

Tank pet goes in slot 1 of the party.
> Typically Water, Earth, or Shadow
> Light also potential Tank, but not generally used for it.

Healers are Light
Attackers are Fire or Air

Your current team looks to be...

Name: Lemon
Level: 47
Element: Light
Prof.: 1HP, 1Int
Relic: Illusionist, epic, lv30
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv45
Acc.: Disciple, epic, lv30
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv30

Name: Lime
Level: 46
Element: Fire
Prof.: 2Agi
Relic: Assassin, legendary, lv20
Armor: Assassin, rare, lv40
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40
Acc.: Evoker, epic, lv35

Name: FeatherHeart
Level: 46
Element: Air
Prof.: 2Str
Relic: Illusionist, epic, lv40
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv45
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40
Acc.: Evoker, rare, lv40


First things to understand are Equipment, Elements, and Profs

Physical elements:

Air, Earth, Water.

Water and Earth pets are Tank elements primarily, and should be equipped with Assassin (Str/Agi) equips. (Water can also pass as a Support element)
Profs will vary depending on what works for the user. HP, Str, or Agi (not Dex- Dex is not a Tank prof)

Air is a pure attacker type, and should always be equipped with Myrmidon (Str/Dex) gear, and profs at lv60 (3 prof points) are best either 3str or 2str/1dex (sub-lv60, either 2Str or 1Str/1Dex)

(FeatherHeart is fine Prof-wise, but his gear is primarily oriented for an Int/Magic element pet, not an Air pet. He Especially needs the Relic replaced with a Myrmidon (Assassin if you don't have one)
--

Relics are instrumental to the damage output of a pet- Assassin and Myrmidon add to Physical damage, Illusionist and Evoker add to Magical Damage.
FeatherHeart's relic is a Magical-type relic, and is adding 165 bonus points to his Magical Damage score... but because he's an Air pet he doesn't get anything at all from that, because his damage calculations use the Physical Damage stat.

--

Magical elements:


Light, Fire, Shadow

Shadow is primarily a Tank element, and should be equipped with Illusionist (Int/Agi) gear. Like with Phys Tanks, prof setup depends on the user; HP, Int, or Agi.

Light is primarily the Healer class- though it can be used as a Tank, this is not that common.
Light pets can be given either Evoker (Int/Dex), Illusionist, or a combo of the two.
Profs tend to be All Int (3Int at lv60) and then Dex with the last two profs (lv65+70). Though you could probably also put HP or Agi on a Light Healer, generally the best use of the first three points is the Int to get the highest heal-return from the pet's attacks.

(Lemon has 1HP/1Int, which might? work for a Light Tank. However, he has a Myrmidon accessory that would do better on FeatherHeart. Disciple equips are okay, but best replaced with a more focused equip)

Fire is another pure attacker. You want to go all-in on Int prof. Lv60 would be either 3Int or 2Int/1Dex (though unlike Air, I would just go purely 2Int sub-lv60, as Fire's debuffs aren't definite infliction on a crit like Air's are)
They want pure Evoker equips.

(Lime has 2Agi profs, which won't really be helping that much. Additionally, she has a Physical-type relic, when she needs a Magical-type, so she's got the same issue as FeatherHeart in that her relic is boosting the wrong stat, crippling her damage output. 3/4 of her equips that are Physical-type, in fact.)
Edited By Scathreoite on 12/16/2018 at 1:04 AM.
Darkness765
Level 60
Joined: 10/20/2018
Threads: 4
Posts: 31
Posted: 12/16/2018 at 1:05 AM Post #3
Oh i see i barely understood the amour part but i know better now thank you i didn't think they would matter
Darkness765
Level 60
Joined: 10/20/2018
Threads: 4
Posts: 31
Posted: 12/16/2018 at 1:24 AM Post #4
so pretty much this is the list right? (for party &Armour and such)


Lemon-Illusionist (and is the first)

Lime-Evoker (second or third)

FeatherHeart- Myrmidon(3/2)
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 83
Posts: 4,149
Posted: 12/16/2018 at 1:25 AM Post #5
Yeah, equips matter a huge amount to pets- the type, level, and rarity of equips are all major characteristics that influence how good they are.


For instance, let's take one of our own festival battle pets, Mimyohan


She's a lv50 Fire pet, and has a legendary lv50 Evoker relic.
Her Magical damage output is 518.
If we take that off her, her output drops down to 244 (losing both the attack bonus and the regular stat boost from the relic)
As a lv50 Fire pet, her Fireball does 100% magical damage, and her Explosive Fireball does 200% magical damage- as such, WITH her relic she does base 518 damage with a Fireball, and base 1036 with Exploding Fireball.
Without it, it's 244 and 488 base output.
(removing all her gear drops her to a measly 155)


Generally, the higher the rarity of an equip the better the stats it gives, outweighing even level in many cases (discounting the Lost Grove equips, which are the best in the game, but those are for lv60+ pets)

A lv50 Uncommon equip is beaten out stat-wise by a lv25 legendary, for example.
Darkness765
Level 60
Joined: 10/20/2018
Threads: 4
Posts: 31
Posted: 12/16/2018 at 1:28 AM Post #6
Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=70680&page=1#5
Author: Scathreoite
Time Posted: 12/16/2018 at 1:25 AM
Yeah, equips matter a huge amount to pets- the type, level, and rarity of equips are all major characteristics that influence how good they are.


For instance, let's take one of our own festival battle pets, Mimyohan


She's a lv50 Fire pet, and has a legendary lv50 Evoker relic.
Her Magical damage output is 518.
If we take that off her, her output drops down to 244 (losing both the attack bonus and the regular stat boost from the relic)
As a lv50 Fire pet, her Fireball does 100% magical damage, and her Explosive Fireball does 200% magical damage- as such, WITH her relic she does base 518 damage with a Fireball, and base 1036 with Exploding Fireball.
Without it, it's 244 and 488 base output.
(removing all her gear drops her to a measly 155)


Generally, the higher the rarity of an equip the better the stats it gives, outweighing even level in many cases (discounting the Lost Grove equips, which are the best in the game, but those are for lv60+ pets)

A lv50 Uncommon equip is beaten out stat-wise by a lv25 legendary, for example.



oh mk!so does my team look good now?
Scathreoite
Level 75
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Joined: 11/2/2014
Threads: 83
Posts: 4,149
Posted: 12/16/2018 at 3:48 AM Post #7
Okay, let's have a look...

From the old equips the pets had

Name: Lemon

Old:

Relic: Illusionist, epic, lv30
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv45
Acc.: Disciple, epic, lv30
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv30

New:

Relic: Illusionist, rare, lv45
Armor: Illusionist, epic, lv30
Acc.: Illusionist, rare, lv45
Acc.: Illusionist, rare, lv45

Thoughts:

Relic: Compare stats with the new one, I'm not sure how an epic lv30 compares to the rare lv45 he now has. They might be about equal? Pick the better one.

Armor: I'd say give him back the old one for the higher Int stat, unless you're really gunning for the Agi?

Acc.: Fine to swap to the current, though the old disciple might be better than the rare illusionist if you aren't trying to fully focus on the Agi. (slightly higher Str for phys. mitigation and Dex for crits, Int only one point lower, but Agi six points lower)

Acc.: Much better to have the rare lv30 illusionist than the old equip


Name: Lime

Old:

Relic: Assassin, legendary, lv20
Armor: Assassin, rare, lv40
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40
Acc.: Evoker, epic, lv35

New:

Relic: Evoker, rare, lv45
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv25
Acc.: Evoker, rare, lv30
Acc.: Evoker, rare, lv40

Thoughts:

Prof.: 2Agi > not sure why she's 1HP/1Int now? As we said, Fire pets tend to be 2Int

Relic: Good swap

Armor: Good swap

Acc.: Hmmm, no- a lv35 epic is stronger than a lv40 rare.
Make it so she has the lv40 rare Evoker and the lv35 epic Evoker rather than lv30 rare Evoker and lv40 rare Evoker

-- Just to show the difference:
Evoker, rare, lv40
HP 190
Str 20 / Int 33 / Dex 40 / Agi 20
vs
Evoker, epic, lv35
HP 220
Str 23 / Int 38 / Dex 46 / Agi 23

--

Name: FeatherHeart

Old:

Relic: Illusionist, epic, lv40
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv45
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40 Myrmidon
Acc.: Evoker, rare, lv40

New:

Relic: Myrmidon, rare, lv40
Armor: Myrmidon, epic, lv45
Acc.: Myrmidon, epic, lv45
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv35

Thoughts:

Relic: You can give his old Relic (Illusionist, epic, lv40) to Lemon- it's a far better choice than the rare lv45 Illusionist that he has. The new rare lv40 Myrmidon should be fine

Armor: Yes, good swap. Actually, why not fling his old Armor (Evoker, epic, lv45) onto Lime? It's far stronger than the Evoker, epic, lv25 she currently has.

Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40 beats Myrmidon, rare, lv35, so give him that back so he has Myrmidon, epic, lv45 + Myrmidon, rare, lv40 rather than Myrmidon, epic, lv45 + Myrmidon, rare, lv35
(actually, if the lv40 rare Evoker Lime currently has isn't the one that this guy previously had, fling it onto her instead of the lv30/lv35)
Darkness765
Level 60
Joined: 10/20/2018
Threads: 4
Posts: 31
Posted: 12/16/2018 at 2:03 PM Post #8
Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=70680&page=1#7
Author: Scathreoite
Time Posted: 12/16/2018 at 3:48 AM
Okay, let's have a look...

From the old equips the pets had

Name: Lemon

Old:

Relic: Illusionist, epic, lv30
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv45
Acc.: Disciple, epic, lv30
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv30

New:

Relic: Illusionist, rare, lv45
Armor: Illusionist, epic, lv30
Acc.: Illusionist, rare, lv45
Acc.: Illusionist, rare, lv45

Thoughts:

Relic: Compare stats with the new one, I'm not sure how an epic lv30 compares to the rare lv45 he now has. They might be about equal? Pick the better one.

Armor: I'd say give him back the old one for the higher Int stat, unless you're really gunning for the Agi?

Acc.: Fine to swap to the current, though the old disciple might be better than the rare illusionist if you aren't trying to fully focus on the Agi. (slightly higher Str for phys. mitigation and Dex for crits, Int only one point lower, but Agi six points lower)

Acc.: Much better to have the rare lv30 illusionist than the old equip


Name: Lime

Old:

Relic: Assassin, legendary, lv20
Armor: Assassin, rare, lv40
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40
Acc.: Evoker, epic, lv35

New:

Relic: Evoker, rare, lv45
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv25
Acc.: Evoker, rare, lv30
Acc.: Evoker, rare, lv40

Thoughts:

Prof.: 2Agi > not sure why she's 1HP/1Int now? As we said, Fire pets tend to be 2Int

Relic: Good swap

Armor: Good swap

Acc.: Hmmm, no- a lv35 epic is stronger than a lv40 rare.
Make it so she has the lv40 rare Evoker and the lv35 epic Evoker rather than lv30 rare Evoker and lv40 rare Evoker

-- Just to show the difference:
Evoker, rare, lv40
HP 190
Str 20 / Int 33 / Dex 40 / Agi 20
vs
Evoker, epic, lv35
HP 220
Str 23 / Int 38 / Dex 46 / Agi 23

--

Name: FeatherHeart

Old:

Relic: Illusionist, epic, lv40
Armor: Evoker, epic, lv45
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40 Myrmidon
Acc.: Evoker, rare, lv40

New:

Relic: Myrmidon, rare, lv40
Armor: Myrmidon, epic, lv45
Acc.: Myrmidon, epic, lv45
Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv35

Thoughts:

Relic: You can give his old Relic (Illusionist, epic, lv40) to Lemon- it's a far better choice than the rare lv45 Illusionist that he has. The new rare lv40 Myrmidon should be fine

Armor: Yes, good swap. Actually, why not fling his old Armor (Evoker, epic, lv45) onto Lime? It's far stronger than the Evoker, epic, lv25 she currently has.

Acc.: Myrmidon, rare, lv40 beats Myrmidon, rare, lv35, so give him that back so he has Myrmidon, epic, lv45 + Myrmidon, rare, lv40 rather than Myrmidon, epic, lv45 + Myrmidon, rare, lv35
(actually, if the lv40 rare Evoker Lime currently has isn't the one that this guy previously had, fling it onto her instead of the lv30/lv35)


well here's the thing i sold their old stuff to get them ew stuff but mk ill switch to what seems best
 
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