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Nightbane
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 11:55 AM Post #1
So...apparently when i have finals...my brain decides THIS is the BEST time to redraw old artworks, as well as my brain decides a few hours before bedtime is best time...and plus on weekdays...>_>

Anyways, when i was...totally not avoiding studying, I looked through my art gallery and nabbed a piece from 2012 and redrew it... (i will study, don't worry just...not quite in mood...)

now admittedly i'm not particularly good with poses, with or without reference (had used reference this time kinda...and i'm probably the only one who can mess things up even with 10 references or more lol))..

Anyways, this one is the OLD one:

2012


..this is the 2015 new one: (warning, I had used some bit of motion blur, so it's not purposely blurry)


...bear in mind i am a slow improver...

...and admittedly i am still not terribly fond of fullbodies...especially backlegs... >___<"

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CAN I GET CRITIQUES ON THESE TOO? (well, might as well...not wasting a new thread,lol)

OLD ONE:2010


NEW ONE: 2015:


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OLD ONE: 2013:


NEW ONE: 2015:


^ok...this one is more of a "character redraw" than a redo of the old piece...as well as when i "redraw" i tend to have a habit of changing its... 'core"

lol..

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Thanks guys and ping me please ^_^
Edited By Nightbane on 6/4/2015 at 1:33 PM.
Icekitsune
Level 64
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 12:37 PM Post #2
Well personally for me your 1st one and last one i like the old better than the redraws. The second one i actually can't decide which one i like better.

For your first one the old is better because it sets a scene without being over dramatic. Your redraw, the background kinda outshines the main part and sorry to say but the adult looks like it has a broken front left paw. Though i do like the stone edge on your redraw better than the original.

Your last one i just like the moving water better lol but i also like the full body wolf as well. Though maybe you can some stars to the night sky could help improve it a bit.


Unfortunately since i'm not an artist i don't know how to give advice on how to improve in certain areas. Maybe another user who is an artist can help you on that.
Edited By Icekitsune on 6/4/2015 at 12:38 PM.
Nightbane
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 12:38 PM Post #3
Mreow....I'm beginning to think maybe I should lay off the references, it's either that or I am not good at references...lol
Icekitsune
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 12:41 PM Post #4
Everyone is good with some things and not so good with others. You just need to be patient until you find what works best with you and that you like it.
Nightbane
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 12:43 PM Post #5
*floofs fur and is now an extra floofier woofy*

....can I see your art?
Icekitsune
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 12:49 PM Post #6
I actually can't draw
Nightbane
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 12:50 PM Post #7
Aw come on mommy J, it can't be that bad, show me?
Icekitsune
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 12:58 PM Post #8
The only thing i can draw is hearts (by hand not digitally) and i don't even know how to draw digitally.
Katasaur
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 1:12 PM Post #9
Alright, I'll see if I can help a bit. ^^ Unfortunately I have to go to work soon, and I only have time to critique one picture, so I'll do the first one (the jumping wolf).

First of all, I'd like to point out all of the improvements you've made!
1. The color pallete on the newer picture is much more intense and interesting!
2. The placement of the yellow sun does a good job of drawing your eye to the wolf/focal point.
3. It has a great use of dramatic lighting!
4. In the newer version, you've let the poses speak for themselves and convey a sense of movement, rather than drawing in motion lines like the older version.

I did a quick drawover for you. If you click on it it will take you to a larger version.


The biggest issue with the anatomy is the legs, which you pointed out yourself. Legs can definately be tricky! A lot of people get confused by joint placement in animals because they appear so different from our own. Here's a couple of handy illustrations of a canine's legs versus a human's (from this website)
http://bestanimationbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dog2.jpg
http://bestanimationbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dog3.jpg
http://bestanimationbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dog4.jpg

Since you mentioned you have difficulty using a reference, I recommend trying out this guide. It's very easy and it can greatly improve your anatomy skills in a very short amount of time! I love this method ^^

Alright, now to composition!
The way you have the background now, it appears that the cliff that the wolf is jumping off of is very close to the ground. If the cliff looked higher up, it would make the whole picture feel much more dramatic. A way to convey this sense of height would be to put much less detail in the grass below; if you are high up, you would not be able to distinguish individual blades of grass. You could also put some hills fading into the background, like I've (attempted) to do in the drawover. It should make the ground appear much more distant. (Here's an example of what I mean)

Also, I moved the edge of the cliff up and back a bit; the placement of it now makes it appear that the wolf is hovering over it, rather than jumping off of it.

Anyways, I hope that helps. ^^ You're doing a great job, keep of the good work!
Edited By Katasaur on 6/4/2015 at 1:13 PM.
Bumblebreeze
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Posted: 6/4/2015 at 1:15 PM Post #10
Whooooosh! Before I start, I LOVE all of these pictures :O

Drawing #1 - I really love the whole background in your redraw but the yellow line going through the centre of the page seems out of place. The left leg with the black sock looks longer than the other four, but legs are usually the hardest to draw >.< I like the old piece more than the second. It just looks more simple and the colours aren't as bold.

Drawing #2 - I like both of these! Although the redraw has to be my favourite. Everything looks great, I love the sun/moon and the lens flare :o) The only part I would have done differently is choosing a differet brush for some parts of the picture. It just looks a tad but fuzzy! But overall, the redraw looks amazing!

Drawing #3 - First off, woah. I LOVE the first picture. the animation looks amazing and the wolf looks great! These two drawings make it difficult to pick a favourite, as they are both very different! I love the simplistic look of the first one, The colours match well and the fluid movement of the animation is just perfect <3 The second one is a very well-drawn wolf head. Realistic and very nice shading. However, the glowing blue and red strokes just threw me off. The colours contrast nicely but I think it was just too much. I would choose between either the red markings or glowing blue aura, but just not both. One thing that bugs me is that I can't see all of the wolf behind it! It looks beautiful but I just really want to see the wolf more than the glowing lights. The original drawing wins this round :o)
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