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Anactaka
Level 67
The Artistic
Joined: 9/27/2013
Threads: 10
Posts: 247
Posted: 3/10/2014 at 4:46 PM
Post #1
It is ruining their value, and it cannot be worth it to get 1 gold for them. Please just release them if you don't want them! Let them be free!
Sincerely,
Concerned
PS If anyone else is concerned, feel free to post. (There's probably a dozen other threads about this? It is an issue.)
Flute
Level 70
Joined: 1/12/2013
Threads: 340
Posts: 12,946
Posted: 3/10/2014 at 5:02 PM
Post #2
There is the whole thing where "concerned" people buy the 1g pets for themselves and release em. xD
I guess if they get any PMs about it, they can voice their reason why.
XxAniraxX
Level 75
The Sweet Tooth
Joined: 7/24/2013
Threads: 52
Posts: 892
Posted: 3/10/2014 at 6:52 PM
Post #3
Honestly it was not up to you to release the 1g ryori you bought from me, if you had looked on the user past it will show they did not belong to me first, meaning they were from other people, I did not release them because during fall fest I had gotten some of them as gifts, and did not want to spit in their faces by releasing them so I thought the better thing to do was set them up for 1g (so I wasn't making profit off of a gift) put up a forum asking people if the bought them (NOT To Release Them). I needed the room and they were unmuted which was the only reason i was selling them.
Edited By XxAniraxX on 3/10/2014 at 6:52 PM.
Lunarshinobi
Level 60
The Kind-Hearted
Joined: 3/21/2013
Threads: 93
Posts: 1,526
Posted: 3/10/2014 at 9:00 PM
Post #4
I raffle a fabled once a in a while, but it's rare, and for every 1 fabled I raffle off I release a good fifty of them, if not more. I only keep fabled that I personally want. I don't really waste time trying to chase down buyers, rarely will anyone pay what the pet is worth, and if I have to drop my prices just to sell them, I might as well just let the things go and keep my pets from cluttering the market.
Elleshie
Level 75
Sylestiologist
Joined: 5/20/2013
Threads: 47
Posts: 1,224
Posted: 3/11/2014 at 5:23 AM
Post #5
Usually when I sell any pet for 1g it's either because they have no traits at all (or maybe just one carry) or because they have been up for sale for a long time and I want to give them one last chance before releasing them.
The current batch of 1g pets in my stables will be released by the end of the week, at which point I'll set another group of pets for 1g for one week before I release them too. It just seems like such a waste to let some of them go, but I can't keep them indefinitely so this is my way to compromise. I wish there was some sort of adoption center to donate the pets you don't want to release but can no longer keep yourself.
Since we're on the subject, is there any sort of pricing guide I could check for suggestions? If not, I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on how to price both fabled and regular pets.
Edited By Elleshie on 3/11/2014 at 5:26 AM.
Flute
Level 70
Joined: 1/12/2013
Threads: 340
Posts: 12,946
Posted: 3/11/2014 at 7:16 AM
Post #6
I personally price things the way I see them. Anywhere from 1k-9k, the numbers are pretty random. (So if anyone really wants to set a market, at least I'm getting more than 1g for it) And some DO sell. I should bless my soul that they do aha, but pet selling is never and WILL NOT EVER BE my main source of income. I stand by my statement that if it is for a person, they're playing the game a bit wrong.
I do put up a forum thread that people can negotiate with me. Hardly anyone ever does, and while I wish I could find a home for all my pets, I have released some pretty good looking ones that do have vis.
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There is different user-led adoption centers. However, they keep the market in mind.
Second Chances usually mails newbies (I think) but they limit people to donate only regular pet failures. No fabled.
The SOS Ny'vene and Operation Puffadore whatevers are threads that let you exchange such pets for a fixed price (set by the host who's concerned for the economy whatever).
However, the latter two have gone hiatus/MIA.
It is a waste to have it be compromised. I thought if I actually pay people (200g-300g, priced by the seller) and release their unwanted pets myself, I'd be doing them a favor (because they were 2carry/no-carries). I guess not, because they didn't really like that.
(I haven't done that in awhile though.)
Pets101creator202
Level 60
Seashell Collector
Joined: 5/18/2013
Threads: 14
Posts: 316
Posted: 3/11/2014 at 1:21 PM
Post #7
To all concerned people...
About this silly subject (no offence)....
I feel its the owners right to sell the pet as they like, they did buy it and its no longer yours so you can't boss the new owner about. If anyone wishes to sell a fabled or common/uncommon pet they can do so as they wish for whatever price AT ANY PRICE, no one cares no offence ladies but their moving on to better pastures and people get their moneys worth unlike buying a stupidly priced fable and getting nothing out of it (this is super frustrating as i know this from experience when i first started out on here it was stupidly priced worse than it is now but its still toooo costly).
There's no need to start on owners about it besides its stupid to sell a useless, geneless, mutationless, (not showing genes/mutations or is really useless) pet for the price that some of the users on here sell them at. 50K just for a Lighria with only 1 gene, no thank you. I'd have better luck catching one than buying one cheap.
Some of you do it just for profit, that's not right i don't care how much i make or have to waste to buy a pet I've got money so why not waste it on giving a new pet a home.
All my sales are less than 5K because its soooooooo hard to find cheap lovely pets that don't cost your entire life savings.
Also ladies look at your pets if you have any your considering selling or are already selling re-assess them think about it from the buyers perspective, also its not hard to let a pet go cheap it is if your greedy and want money that is over the top for something only worth 1K. No offence but I've probably never bought from any of you because you want money and are too expensive when there's cheaper alternatives people buy from them not you, people don't like people selling pets at such a high price that's why they come to people like me.
I sell pets from 1 Gold to 5000 Gold that's it, after a sale i had i re-assessed and thought she should never have paid that much for it i couldn't contact her as i lost her message and sadly regret selling her the pet at that price. But since then I've learnt i'm not greedy and i can make money very easily seem as the dungeon isn't that hard to beat and lets face it the only hard bad guy is the bosses but not always.
What i'm getting at ladies is if you buy stronger pets and sell everything you don't want cheap you still make profit how do you think i'm level 60 with a level 60 and about 6 all visible/carry pets?
I bought wise and that's what everyone else is doing.
Now ladies please leave this silly subject behind and move on to something else, no offence but i'm pretty sure no one but you guys who sell for profit care.
There's millions of users everyday selling at 1 Gold go have a go at them or get off our backs.
Maybe if you look at the issue you'll see THERE ISN'T ONE....
Now if you don't mind i have pets to sell and people to make happy and days to brighten with cheap sales.
If anyone agree's with me put "I AGREE!" in a comment below and we'll see just how many of us poor scammed users disagree with the overly priced pets on this site.
If you disagree then put "I Disagree!" in a comment below, all agree people have respect don't argue with them its only a view and we don't need a 50 FT long essay explaining why your right and i'm wrong that's just immature and un-civil.
By the end of May i'll look and add up how many agrees and disagrees we have MYSELF.
And then post here and if the agree's win we drop this silly subject for good and users sell them as they like we shouldn't feel bullied into selling at stupid prices.
If the disagree won then we leave it there and we all go about our day civilly but we will fight till we have the subject dropped and no "HAHA we won :P" that's just stupid and immature we're all people here no need for that level of degrading.
NOW good day to you all and maybe just maybe you'll think a little diffrently. Also if i find out from any disagree that you forced them too agree with you i will not be happy with you also i think the entire site will know of it.
Good day and "I Agree!"
Selestial
Level 75
Trickster
Joined: 7/9/2013
Threads: 184
Posts: 3,416
Posted: 3/11/2014 at 3:18 PM
Post #8
First off, may a point out a few little things. I won't go on with a '50 FT long essay' though I easily could on the ways you have contradicted yourself and turned yourself into a hypocrite alone. So, a few pointers:
"I feel its the owners right to sell the pet as they like...If anyone wishes to sell a fabled or common/uncommon pet they can do so as they wish for whatever price AT ANY PRICE"
So practice what you preach. leave others alone about how they price their own pets, mind your own business, price your pets the way you want to price your pets and let others price their the way they want.
"its soooooooo hard to find cheap lovely pets that don't cost your entire life savings."
No. It's really not. And if your entire life's savings on this site are a couple k gold? You haven't been doing much saving.
"you want money and are too expensive when there's cheaper alternatives people buy from them not you, people don't like people selling pets at such a high price that's why they come to people like me."
As one person who consistently sells Nephinis at a fairly high price, this is a little personal. I don't do it for profit, and I release a fair number. But a large surplus is unavoidable when breeding toward a 6vis. I price them at 40k per visible and 20k per carry. Yes, they're expensive. Yes, some have muddied colors. But they're high-traited, they're a fabled species, and guess what? I sell them. People come and buy my expensive Nephinis, even when there are people who sell them for far cheaper than I do! I actually lately have been selling more for those high prices than the ones in my auctions, which have starting bids that are considerably lower than the AB price - which follows what I said above. Still, I make very little profit off my Nephs, and normally swing about 100k-150k per day on this site doing other stuff.
Selling pets at high prices does not mean they will never sell. It may involve a little more patience, but yes, they do. And there's a fairly large amount of people on this site that are willing to pay those high prices for lovely pets.
"I sell pets from 1 Gold to 5000 Gold that's it, after a sale i had i re-assessed and thought she should never have paid that much for it"
Good for you. That's your prerogative, your opinion, as just like everyone else, you are entitled to it, and to sell for what you want to sell for.
"Now ladies please leave this silly subject behind and move on to something else, no offence but i'm pretty sure no one but you guys who sell for profit care."
Wrong.
There are plenty of members on this site who are concerned about the overabundance of pets and the economy falling. And I don't know any of them who are irritated by these things simply because they sell for profit. In fact, I can't think of anyone who gains their entire profit from selling pets. And if no one but those people care, why is it such a discussed topic anymore? This is not the first thread about this issue that had come up in the past few months, nor will it be the last. And it seems you care, since you took the time to type out your extensive and offensive post on the subject.
Oh yeah. By the by, saying 'No offense' doesn't actually keep anyone from being offended.
"Now if you don't mind i have pets to sell and people to make happy and days to brighten with cheap sales."
I didn't realize you'd been dragged kicking and screaming to discuss the subject and we were keeping you here by force.
"If anyone agree's with me put "I AGREE!" in a comment below and we'll see just how many of us poor scammed users disagree with the overly priced pets on this site."
Excuse you? Unfortunately, no one on here has the power to decide what anyone else should be discussing. Just because you gave your opinion does not mean you can close out any further discussion. Regardless of whether or not you like it, the economy and price depreciation of fabled will continue to be discussed, and if you don't like it, I suggest you pass over the threads and continue on with your life.
And if you do decide to join in the discussions, be civil and polite about it. I probably haven't been within this post, but I'm afraid I really don't care at this moment. I know plenty of people who share some of your views, that it's to be expected and people shouldn't be butthurt about low prices, but they're still polite and correct about it all. They can accept that others have their own opinions and go about their lives, doing their own thing, and can even be heavily involved in discussions without deciding that they are absolutely right and trying to force everyone else to agree that they are correct. No one is bullying anyone into anything. It's called a discussion for a reason.
Oh, look. I guess I did write a '50 FT long essay'. But I suppose one deserves another in reply.
Krinadon
Level 75
Shadow of the Moon
Site Administrator
Joined: 12/17/2012
Threads: 1,195
Posts: 15,124
Posted: 3/11/2014 at 3:44 PM
Post #9
Simply put, players can price their pets at whatever price they want to. It's entirely their business. Having pets be worth more than 1g is entirely on our shoulders to create proper supply and demand. And as we've stated , we are working on improving the supply and demand issue so that pet's prices go up to something more than just 1g.
Additionally, once a player rightfully purchases and owns a pet, what they do with it is entirely their business. If a player wants to buy every single pet for sale and release each and every one of them, then they are perfectly allowed to do that and there is no reason to be mad at them for it. If you don't want the pet to be released, then the simple thing to do is to not sell it - or sell it to someone whom you know won't release it. But even if they do, there is still nothing you can be mad about - you're the one who sold it.
Anyway, locking this thread and please try to keep relevant issues to the threads already created. I believe there is one already in this forum as well as the Suggestion Box.
Edited By Krinadon on 3/11/2014 at 3:44 PM.
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