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Forum Index > General Discussion > Cross-bred themeds?
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Deathdust
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Posted: 9/16/2014 at 2:01 PM Post #11
For me, it's not necessarily "OMG they must be pure*," but closer to "I like this colour scheme and there just happens to be 200 or so pets that share it! :D" I'm particularly fond of Star Crossed/Arctic Storm griffis. ^0^ (Though I don't actually own any right now, so there's that. XD)

Side note: I also refuse to pay grand prices for purebreds unless they are wheel pets, then my max is 50k (for a female) or 1G (for a male; I'm not spending that much cash when there's a billion males for breeding). I'm that loser that stalks the markets for quicksale wheelies. XD

*However I do breed pure; otherwise nobody takes your lovelies seriously and you can't sell them for squat. XD
Edited By Deathdust on 9/16/2014 at 2:03 PM.
Roseydove
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Posted: 9/16/2014 at 3:38 PM Post #12
I think of half-themed crossbreeds as pretty much the same worth as regular sylesti offspring once they are mixed. But that doesn't mean they can't be pretty. :D

I am not a huge collector of themed pets, aside from themed aeridinis. In my opinion, I think the tiger lily aeridini's look is slightly improved when it is mixed, even if it isn't as "valueable". And I breed some for genetic purity, and some for looks.


100% TL Aeri:


50% TL Aeri:


50% TL Aeri:


25% TL Aeri:


25% TL aeri:


They may not be pure, but I like the colors they contribute, all while keeping the gene pool varied.
Xavion
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Posted: 9/22/2014 at 11:40 PM Post #13
I'm one of those 100% purebred or nothing type of people, which includes the recoloring of themed pets since that also ruins the point of the theme. What makes a theme special is their virtually-identical color scheme, which allows players to breed for that exact same color scheme for purebred offspring. Crossing themed pets is something I personally will never do (Though, all of my projects are intended for purebred 6-vis anyway, so cross breeding would be a complete waste of a long-anticipated cooldown.)

Also, the results would be far too randomized for it to really classify as a 'theme' in itself, since the colors can be ANYWHERE between the colors of each individual theme. This would lead to a mixed result in offspring, which means that the results can't be replicated. Some may look good, yes, and some may look horrible. It's a complete gamble, much like breeding two non-themed pets of different colors together. Essentially, this would make it hard to really 'advertise' since you can't truly guarantee the result that someone may want.


To make an example for this, I'll use Dasher the Majestic, the very first purebred 6-vis Reindeer Griffi, and test breed her with a 4V/2C Star-Crossed Griffi.





As the results show, the colors can go to either extreme or they can meet in the middle, and it's highly unlikely for one result to be identical to any of the others. And this is why, just as Mikazukichan feels, to me 'crossbred themed' pets are no longer even 'themed' and would be counted as a non-themed pet. (Though, I will admit that every once in a while the results can be quite stunning, depending on the themes. The lack of repeatable results is the primary issue I have with it, since repeatable results are the factor that makes a theme, a theme.)


Just my thoughts on the matter. ^^
Lostwords13
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Posted: 9/23/2014 at 1:15 AM Post #14
Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=17373&page=2#12
Author: Roseydove
Time Posted: 9/16/2014 at 3:38 PM
I think of half-themed crossbreeds as pretty much the same worth as regular sylesti offspring once they are mixed. But that doesn't mean they can't be pretty. :D

I am not a huge collector of themed pets, aside from themed aeridinis. In my opinion, I think the tiger lily aeridini's look is slightly improved when it is mixed, even if it isn't as "valueable". And I breed some for genetic purity, and some for looks.


100% TL Aeri:


50% TL Aeri:


50% TL Aeri:


25% TL Aeri:


25% TL aeri:


They may not be pure, but I like the colors they contribute, all while keeping the gene pool varied.


o.o what were you breeding those last two to?! The first especially is absolutely gorgeosu1
Psalmreader121
Level 60
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Posted: 9/23/2014 at 2:17 PM Post #15
Well, we never said they were themed anymore. However, it's still fun to try cross-breeding and seeing what you get. Besides, like you said, some of them can be quite stunning.
AaronAmpora
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Posted: 9/23/2014 at 2:48 PM Post #16
I definitely agree with what you guys are saying, they wouldn't be themed anymore, just pretty pets.
Roseydove
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Posted: 9/23/2014 at 3:23 PM Post #17
Deathdust
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Posted: 9/23/2014 at 3:38 PM Post #18
I agree, they are not themed. vuv They are not worth more than a normal pet either. However, for me it's easier to find a themed pet with new genes and breed it with a normal pet than finding two normal pets. However, I would never sell it as or call it themed in any way.

What truly bothers me (and this is why I check every sale themed back to tagged pets) is when a completely themed looking pet has ONE non-themed or different themed pet waaaaaaaay back in their bloodlines. >o<
Like this girl: In the deepest darkest corner of her lines there is an Arctic Storm Griffi. :/
Edited By Deathdust on 9/23/2014 at 3:39 PM.
Xavion
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Posted: 9/23/2014 at 4:23 PM Post #19
^^; Actually, since I've bred the SC's so much as well as the Arctic Storms, I was able to tell that she wasn't a true theme the moment I saw the image. The chest is too light in tone, and the blue internal spots on Snow Leopard are much too bright of a blue. Also, looking at her profile page reveals an even bigger tell. The G3 color is near-white, rather than the Star Crossed's bright yellow.


But, that mostly comes from my experience breeding them.


And usually it isn't too hard to get in new traits for a theme. The owners of many of the tagged ones are often willing to breed offspring for others, which is actually how all of my own projects begin. And there are other breeders like myself who sell whatever excess pets they end up with. If you're ever interested or struggling to find what you want, you can also use the pet auctions part of the forums to try and acquire a certain trait you're after. :)
Deathdust
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Posted: 9/23/2014 at 4:26 PM Post #20
Wow, that is some skill. XD
My expertise is mostly in Morning Glories and Full Moons, I would have never noticed. >o<;;

I meant new traits for normal pets and normal pet projects. For example; I'm doing a Ligh project with Lucky Runes the cheapest stud with that gene* is a wheel pet.
Project goal:

Getting new traits for themes is hecka easy, especially with richer people greater mutating them. >u<

*edit: gene combo; the stud has Blue Pangan and Lucky Runes. Oops.
Edited By Deathdust on 9/23/2014 at 4:29 PM.
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