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Cinne
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Posted: 5/28/2018 at 8:40 PM
Post #1
Note: If you provide me information on this thread that nobody previously mentioned that is TRUE and I breed a sylesti that you want in the future, you can have ONE free or reduced price depending on the provided info. Lol I hope thats good enough incentive for quick help :)
I have a few pairs of essences for different species, so as soon as I get the info I want Ill be designing sylesti right away to breed.
So I want to breed stuff that people will want to buy for some gold but I dont really understand how breeding works. This is what Ive pieced together so far:
-Green is a carried trait that does NOT show, but will as a blue trait in the child if they breed
-Green traits only pass on if BOTH parents have a green trait from the same category (g1, g2, g3, m1, m2, m3)
-Blue traits are traits that show in the sylesti
-Blue traits CANNOT be passed on unless both parents have the same blue trait or one has a blue and one has a green of the same trait (ex: Zolnixi with a blue back stripes mated with a Zolnixi with a green back stripes will produce offspring with back stripes; a Zolnixi with a blue back stripes and a Zolnixi with a green regal markings will produce offspring with neither design, nor a carried trait for one)
-Purple traits show and are passed on as long as both parents have a trait in the same category (g1,2,3, m1,2,3)
-(Green) If parents have different traits that are in the same category, the offspring has a chance to have either one of the trait
Please please correct me on anything that Im wrong on.
And finally a couple questions:
-How do I get the URL for a saved Sylesti design to upload into the generator?
-How do I price stuff fairly? I still dont understand exactly how pricing works.
-Whats with the Ferriki craze? Everyone seems to be going crazy over Ferrikis and idk why.
-Why are themed sylesti so valuable? Ik they are just a seasonal event thing but some of them dont even carry any traits.
If anybody else has a question they want to add to this thread where everyone will see, pm me the question and Ill add it on, Ill also list your name so people can ping you if they answer and Ill also notify you if someone answers. I also might pay a SMALL amount of gold for some more questions because I have terrible memory and know Im leaving out a LOT of things I want to know lol...
If you provide useful info that wasnt even requested on this thread Ill send some gold depending on the info.
Sakina
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Posted: 5/28/2018 at 9:33 PM
Post #2
Sylestia uses basic Mendelian Genetics. It's pretty simple and goes something like this.
-For each Gene and Mutation, a pet can have 2 different versions of that gene. These are called alleles. On Sylestia these are represented by different letters.
-A pet needs 2 of any allele for something to show. The allele with the highest letter (A>B>C etc) is the one that shows.
-If a pet only has 1 allele in a slot, nothing shows. The blank spot is represented with an N.
-A pet will only pass on one allele per gene/mutation to their offspring. Therefore a pet has a 50% chance to pass over either of the alleles. This includes the blank spots.
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I'll use this pet as an example.
You can see that genes/mutations with blank spots are green, ones with 2 different alleles are purple, and ones with two of the same alleles are blue. That is all the colors mean.
Green: 50% chance to pass on the blank spot (N), 50% chance to pass over the non-visible allele
Blue: 100% chance to pass over that trait because both alleles are the same.
Purple: 50% chance to pass over the visible allele, 50% chance to pass over the non-visible allele
I don't need any pets... I just like to talk genetics.
Sakina
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Posted: 5/28/2018 at 9:39 PM
Post #3
Some more fun with statistics.
Ex. 1
Pet 1 has Gene One (NA), Pet 2 has Gene One (NB)
NA x NB
Pet 1 has a 50% chance to pass on their A, Pet 2 has a 50% chance to pass on their B.
Therefore...
-25% of their offspring will have NN
-25% of their offspring will have NA
-25% of their offspring will have NB
-25% of their offspring will have AB
Ex. 2
AB x BB
-50% of their offspring will have AB
-50% of their offspring will have BB
Ex. 3
BBxNN
-100% of the offspring will have NB
Scathreoite
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Posted: 5/28/2018 at 10:11 PM
Post #4
... and then I accidentally hit refresh and lost everything I typed, yes, excellent.
Sylestia Genetics basically works on a basis of Punnett Squares and Dominance.
Dominance works as N (no trait) > A > B > C > D > E > etc. (calculated separately for each trait slot.)
Green = Carried Trait.
> Can either pass N or [insert letter] to offspring, 50/50, eg NH, NB, NH.
> Cannot be seen in Genetics Section unless pet has been genetically tested (it's still there, but can't be seen)
Purple = Hidden Trait.
> Basically, it's a Carried Trait but in the same trait slot as a more dominant Visible trait rather than being under N (no trait) eg AG, BD, EF.
> Like Green traits, you can't see them in the genetics section unless the pet is tested.
> Like carried traits, it's a 50/50 chance of passing down.
Blue = Visible Trait.
> Can be seen on the pet's image.
> Appears as a double letter, eg. AA or GG
> if the pet has been tested and it is still blue, it's 100% chance this trait letter will pass to offspring.
So in the scenarios you had:
Zolnixi with a blue back stripes (DD) mated with a Zolnixi with a green back stripes (ND):
Offspring will have 50/50 on producing either ND or DD
Zolnixi with a blue back stripes (DD) and a Zolnixi with a green regal markings (NE):
Offspring will have 50/50 chance of being ND or DE
So I'm gonna go grab something I typed up ages ago on a different post to explain Hidden Trait genetics:
"So parent A *randomizes generator colours and picks random traits*
G1: GG [Picasso tfish vis]
G2: NA [henna carry]
G3: CF [pollen vis, sw.betta hidden]
M1: HK [leafy sd. fins vis, encroaching seaweed hidden]
M2: NB [carried spash wing]
M3: NN [nothing]
parent B
G1: OR [vis henna, carried clownfish]
G2: EE [vis clown triggerfish]
G3: DG [vis irrridescence, hidden lotus lights]
M1: NI [carried sea fur]
M2: NA [carried dragonfly wings
M3: GG [vis seaweed whirlwind]
*doesn't alter the urls because lazy*
Offspring could be
G1: GO or GR (Always vis G from father, either hidden O or R from mother)
G2: NE or AE (Either carried E from mother, No-vis from father, or Vis A from father, hidden E from mother)
G3: CD/ CG/ DF/ FG (50% chance of vis C from father, with hidden D or G from mother, 25% chance vis D from mother, hidden F from father, 25% chance Vis F from father, hidden G from mother)
M1: NH/ NK/ HI/ IK (25% carried H from father, 25% chance carried K from father, 25% vis H from father, hidden I from mother, 25% vis I from mother, hidden K from father)
M2: NN/ NA/ NB/ AB (25% novis nocarry, 25% carried A from mother, 25% carried B from father, 25% Vis A from mother, carried B from father)
M3: NG (always carried G from mother)
So a baby might look like
or or
(or whatever other set of combinations. There are. A Lot)"
And finally to the non-genetics questions:
-How do I get the URL for a saved Sylesti design to upload into the generator?
If you have saved a design in the Generator and want to Load it:
> Click "Load Saved Design"
> Click "My Designs"
> You can from here select the species the design was, and choose how recently it was saved.
> Click "Update list"
> Locate the design and click it so it highlights
> Scroll down and hit "Load to Generator"
-How do I price stuff fairly? I still dont understand exactly how pricing works.
This depends on a lot of points such as:
> Is it Tagged/Purebred
> Stats
> Traits
> Demand
> Is it a Project pet
-Whats with the Ferriki craze? Everyone seems to be going crazy over Ferrikis and idk why.
Ferrikki are the newest species, released only this year, after years of waiting for the reveal of the new species.
They are a Fabled species, found in the wild only in the Lost Grove, and are reasonably rare.
-Why are themed sylesti so valuable? Ik they are just a seasonal event thing but some of them dont even carry any traits.
Themes (those that are first generation are Tagged Themed) are specific to the season they were designed for, and are are the official site colourations (and most of them were designed by the players, submissions to the "X Season Theme Design Contest" threads)
They generally appear for only two of that seasonal festival before being retired from the wild permanently.
This means, with their set colour scheme, that they breed their colours true, so they make for the basis of a lot of people's Breeding Projects.
Unlike Generated pets, they can be found as Legendary or Mystical rarities (rather than being 4TP maximum), and can have Genetic Mutators used on them (again, unlike Generated pets)
Exclusive themes generally only are available for a single Festival before being retired (this fest is a bit weird in that the Exclusives from last year can be made again this year)
The themes can be quite rare.
Also, all- yes, ALL- Themed pets are Rare rarity or higher. Every single one of them has two Trait Points (1 vis or 2 carry) at the minimum. Even the ones from nests.
(The SOLE exception is the Majestic pets made via activities (in this fest, Gardening), who will only have a single carried trait if- IF- they have no fertiliser at all used on them.)
Edited By Scathreoite on 5/31/2018 at 4:38 PM.
Cinne
Level 75
High Druid
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Threads: 56
Posts: 1,151
Posted: 5/28/2018 at 10:19 PM
Post #5
What about this one? It doesnt have any trait points but its a themed
https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=4020404
Scathreoite
Level 75
Hand of Destiny
Joined: 11/2/2014
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Posts: 4,408
Posted: 5/28/2018 at 10:23 PM
Post #6
as we mentioned: The only thing a pet will show if they are untested is Visibles (Blue).
That Vulnyx is untested, and thus evidently has Carried (Green) traits
(as he was probably a blue star (rare) wild, two carries. If he was a purple star (epic) wild, he'd have four carries, and a yellow star (legendary) wild would have six carries)
(just like our own Patient Petunia, who is tested so you can see his carries- you can tell when they're tested by the miniature sign over their genetics)
Edited By Scathreoite on 5/28/2018 at 10:27 PM.
Cinne
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High Druid
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Posted: 5/28/2018 at 10:27 PM
Post #7
Ok that makes sense. Sorry if I missed a few things Im tired so Ill have reread tomorrow lol
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