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Forum Index > Suggestion Box > Revamping some of the existing pets
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Faiona
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Posted: 1/4/2013 at 9:08 PM Post #1
Alright, so in the chat the overall consensus was that some of the pet species need a revamp. I will just say now that I like the Qitari and Zolnixi and I think that they are definitely the best looking out of the pets. And I don't want to revamp them.

Here are the other ones that I think look good in my opinion...

Qitari
Zolnixi
Female Sylvorpa baby and adult
Draeyl - their scales are going to get a revamp already
Female Vulnyx, both baby Vulnyx

I also like the Aurleons too...but I know a lot of people complain about their anatomy. REALLY the only pet that I actually really really dislike is the adult male Sylvorpa. The male Vulnyx could probably get a redraw...the same pose...but have him be more menacing/muscular like he was suppose to be.


So go ahead post and I suppose we can discuss this as a community...

Draco
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Posted: 1/4/2013 at 9:13 PM Post #2
The problem with Aurleons is primarily the lack of the artist's understanding of how wings/feathers work. Compare the following:



Flight feathers do not bend the way it does in the Aurleon image. The shoulders[?] look a bit strange as well.
Reynbowz
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Posted: 1/4/2013 at 9:14 PM Post #3
Agreeing with Fai on pets that don't need revamping. I think the male Vulnyx is fine. Some people may have some minor issues with it, but realistically speaking, it is the absolute worst-drawn pets that need the financial attention.

I just have to say that the Aurleons are probably the ones that need the most revamping. The anatomy is just not right at all. I tried to do a sort of skeleton overlay on the female, but I just... couldn't even... omg.
So the female needs a complete do-over. But the male also has wing issues. Look:



Kind of rough, please bear with me.
I've flipped the Aurleon for comparison. There appears to be a "bend" in the wing, either due to a bone bending or because of feather placement. Either way is impossible. In the bone scenario ( left wing ), the bones at places A and D are supposed to be somewhat stiff, and do not bend to the side like that. So the artist apparently drew the wing with a bone that does not exist... otherwise, the wings are normal but have feathers going in opposite directions. :/

I have issues with the female Draeyl's pose as well, it is drawn as if the legs closest to the viewer are longer than the others.
Edited By on 1/4/2013 at 10:06 PM.
Zoboomafoo
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Posted: 1/4/2013 at 9:31 PM Post #4
You put Qitari and Zolnixi's down as the ones you thing look good. . . and on the list of things that could need revamping.
Really, as far as I go, I think that the only one I have issues with is the female Vulnux. It just looks. . . weird. I can see what others say about the Aruleon, but it's not so bad for me personally.
EDIT: Oh wait, you had that down as the good looking ones. My bad. I still don't like the grown female Vulnyx though, it's pose is just. . . odd.
Edited By on 1/4/2013 at 9:33 PM.
Dawnshadow
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Posted: 1/4/2013 at 9:35 PM Post #5
I think the male Zolnixi needs some work done on the back of his head. @_@ (It seriously bugs me)

Ah, the male Vulnyx has an oddly bent fang as well.
Faiona
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Posted: 1/4/2013 at 9:43 PM Post #6
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Originally Posted: 3/14/2026 at 11:45:40pm

I think the male Zolnixi needs some work done on the back of his head. @_@ (It seriously bugs me)

Ah, the male Vulnyx has an oddly bent fang as well.


I didn't even notice that about the head until you and Vella both said it...



I guess we should get that fixed as well.

Savynn
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Posted: 1/4/2013 at 10:28 PM Post #7
I understand the desire for certain corrections but there's a few I hope the poses don't change too much. Please read my post though understanding I'm not an artist so I might not have the best understanding of how things should be done.

Female Aurleon - I understand the problems with the wings but if it can keep a pose at least somewhat like how it is I'd be happy.
Male Zolnixi
Qitari (both males and females)
Female Sylvorpa

I don't really mind the male Sylvorpa. (I wonder if I'm the only one.) The only problem I have with it is the wings don't look quite right to me when if it has webbing and neck frill, too. Maybe it just looks cluttered to me? That doesn't mean it's wrong though.
Edited By 135 on 1/4/2013 at 10:30 PM.
Reynbowz
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Posted: 1/5/2013 at 4:16 AM Post #8
It just occurred to me that there are issues with mutations on some pets also...
In particular, I think the wings on Draeyls could use an update.

Instead of flattened up together against each other, they would probably look better folded on either side of the body. I'll draw what I mean tomorrrow. Even better, the revamps could be made to accommodate more attractive wing mutations.

Sylvorpa Body Webbing is also pretty derpy.


Finally, I don't think the peacock tail blends in well with the rest of the Aurleon tail at all. Should address this problem in the revamp. Maybe make the finned crest mutation more exciting as well? It's not very desirable at the moment, doesn't really add any appeal.
Edited By on 1/5/2013 at 4:22 AM.
Shadowphyr
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Posted: 1/5/2013 at 5:55 AM Post #9
I know I have been personally struggling with the designs for the Aurleon, Sylvorpa, and Draeyl specifically. So I guess I'll give my two cents on those three.

Aurleon
The wing layout is a huge issue for me. There's just something about the way the feathers randomly curve as if they've turned into ribbons or something. It's just ....no. Feathers are just incapable of doing that sort of thing unless they're broken, and even then they don't quite bend like that. I like the peacock-y type look of the tail, however it irks me that it just kind of ...pools at its backside. It makes the peacock trait almost unnoticeable in the scheme of things unless you're paying close attention. My personal suggestion on that is to let them just flow naturally outward like a fan, though I know that would require taking up more space and (possibly) causing an entire size adjustment on the images. And the neck bothers me. A lot. It feels like the Aurleon's were crossed at some point with a peacock and an ostrich, and ostriches are just plain unattractive. ._.

Sylvorpa
Don't get me wrong, they're cute. It may just be because I have a natural aversion to most aquatic based pets on almost any given site/game for some unexplainable reason or another because I absolutely adore marine life. Idgi. Never have and probably never will. Either way, I definitely feel some kind of revamp could be beneficial. I don't know if this is covering anatomical features or everything in general, so I'm just going to throw in that I don't like how the underbelly gene extends all the way to the face. At all. Aside from that, I feel the toes seem too curled (on the males) in my opinion for a relaxed-seeming state. It just looks uncomfortable, especially on the back feet, and I feel the webbing between the toes in the adult stage could use a little more presence. The male adult tail fin also kind of bothers me; I guess I'd like to see it a little more fanned out like the females to give it more depth from the adolescent stage (which looks eerily similar in its folded state). I also feel the body webbing should extend along the tail as well. It seems awkward without it.

Draeyl
I honestly can't even tell you what it is about the Draeyls that bother me so much. Typically I fall in absolute love with dragon breeds, but for some reason with Draeyls I just .....don't. So far the only way I can bring myself to even like them at all is if they come with a full compliment of wings and spikes (at least spine, if nothing else). Which puts me off on even making breeding pairs to get those kinds of traits. I feel I would just breed them until I get the desired chick and then scrap the parents. It may be because, without those mutations, they look a lot more like dinosaurs? Which, though I enjoy and was really into as a kid, I just don't find myself squeeing over them as an adult anymore. I don't know. That's really about all I got on those because I just can't seem to place a finger on why I just ....can't. =/ What little I can say is that I don't much care for either pose, the female more than anything.


Other than those main three, I don't have much. I like the other three species available, though some things could be fixed. I will try to make them brief so I don't turn this into a novel. |D

The female vulnyx horns are disproportionate and one curves while the other kinda ...doesn't.
The male vulnyx back wing seems awkwardly placed, lower and more pointed than the forward wing for sure.
The female Qitari's forward wing has this weird random curve on it's last end tail feather, kind of the Aurleon wing problem here.
The female Zolnixi's adolescent tail could use a slightly wider base.
Personally would like to see some variation on the tri-tails mutation where all three aren't following the same basic posing (all three curving upward or downward, mix it up).
Both Zolnixi front legs and paws seem exceptionally disproportionate and small compared to bodies, doesn't seem like they could carry any weight (and should rightly just collapse forward, unable to move save to shuffle themselves forward with their hind legs, face grinding across the dirt). Or just ....you know...


|Db
Autumnrainchaos
Level 49
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Posted: 1/5/2013 at 9:04 AM Post #10
Actually, about the only thing I don't like are the Vulnyx and the Draeyl .____. but I'm just not a big fan of the sabor-toothed look on the cats or the dinosaur look on the Draeyl xD

If you'd like, I think to help the Vulnyx would be to make their teeth just a tiny bit smaller? I dunno what sex of sabor had bigger teeth though, if the females did in case they did all the hunting? *shrugs*

I'm not really good with birds so I can't judge there |D

Good luck in the slight revamps :3 Other than that, I think they're awesome.
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