Hi, I want to start a breeding project soon but have some questions.

1) I I want a nytekrie with 4 traits, will it be easier to generate two sylesties, one with two of the traits and another with the other two. Or generate two that both have all the traits but carried?

Also any breeding tips would be very helpful.

Thanks!

Well, look at it this way:

First method
For two visible traits for each creature-
AA, BB, cc, dd
aa, bb, CC, DD

The best you can get is: Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd

And then you essentially need another family to get another Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd so that you have a 0.4% chance of getting AA, BB, CC, DD.

Second Method
For four carried traits for each creature-
Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd
Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd

0.4% chance again to get AA, BB, CC, DD

So out of the two, both suck but at least the second method requires you to spend less.

HOWEVER

Third Method!

AA, Bb, Cc, dd
Aa, Bb, Cc, DD

Gives a 6.3% chance to give Aa, BB, CC, Dd.
And from there you can breed against-

Aa, BB, CC, Dd
Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd

for a 1.6% chance to get AA, BB, CC, DD orrrr

you can make a separate family of the same structure across different traits to get-

Aa, BB, CC, Dd
AA, Bb, Cc, DD

To have another 6.3% chance to get AA, BB, CC, DD

Mind you, if you breed and get a step below that, which would be some such combination where there's only a single recessive trait, you can just keep breeding to eliminate the single recessive trait.

So it might end up being-

AA, BB, CC, Dd
Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd (or any combination that doesn't involve an absent trait)

To get a 12.5% chance to get AA, BB, CC, DD

At least, that's how it was taught to me. It's a tedious process, and I wish the best of luck to you so that you can nail that 6.3% chance as soon as possible.

If a professional would check my math, I would be appreciative

To add onto what Khumos said...

If you are looking to breed a pair that can breed together and create as many offspring as you like... the cheapest (but slowest) method is to use 3 regular essences.

Generate 1 girl, 2 boys. For each pet put the traits as carries, whether you're using enhanced/mystical or regular. Distribute the traits as you see fit, as long as there is 1 of each trait you need within your trio.

Breed your generation 1 girl to one of your gen. 1 boys.

If you hatch a girl this is good. You want to breed this generation 2 girl to the generation 1 boy that isn't the father.

You would continue doing this until the females you breed have more and more trait slots filled. When you breed males that are better than your adult males, switch them out... but make sure you have girls that can breed to the new male.

Siblings and children can not breed to each other, however grandparents can breed to their grandchildren (gross, I know but that's how it's done cheaply).

If you need more help there are lots of player guides about breeding.

Wow that's confusing. I'll have to take a while to sort that out, but thanks!

Sorry, I think I actually rushed that a bit. I would recommend consulting the guide to breeding that's pinned at the top of the breeding discussion forum and then go from there. What you want to do is give yourself the best chance possible to get that four vis, and to do that you need to cross two sylesties with good trait setup.

To simplify it, consider a single trait that you'd like to pass down to an offspring.

You have a mother and a father sylestie.
The mother has visible wings, while the father has no trace of wings (Neither visible nor carried)
We'll use double 'A' to signify the visible presence of wings and double 'a' to signify the lack of visible or carried wings.

Crossing AA with aa will give you only one possible outcome, which is Aa. The big A next to the little a indicates that the wing trait is carried but not visible.

There is a 100% chance that AA x aa will give you Aa

Now let's look at another situation.

You have another mother and another father sylestie.
The mother has great big visible horns, and after a genetic test you find out that the father carries the trait for horns, passed down to him from his parents. Again, we'll use double 'A' to signify the visible presence of horns and we'll use 'Aa' to signify the carried trait of horns.

Crossing AA and Aa will give you two possibilities as outcomes. Either the offspring will inherit one horn gene from both parents, AA, and will have visible horns, or the offspring will receive a single horn gene from the mother but the father will not pass down his horn gene- giving the offspring an Aa (Carried horns)

There is a 50% chance that AA x Aa will give you AA, and a 50% chance that it will give you Aa.

Now, for a final situation.

You have a third mother and father couple.
The mother carries a gene for an Afro, and so does the father! (Each is Aa)

When you cross them, Aa x Aa, there are three possibilities:
There is a 25% chance that it will yield AA (Visible Afro)
There is a 50% chance that it will yield Aa (Carried Afro)
There is a 25% chance that it will yield aa (no evidence of Afro, carried or visible. No trait is present)



Now, that seems simple enough I know- so why am I bringing up 0.4% or 1.6%, 6.3% or 12.5%?

As you start adding more traits, you're adding more possibilities on how your sylestie may turn out.
If you're hoping that crossing an Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd trait scheme by a second Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd trait scheme will yield a trait scheme of AA, BB, CC, DD, you're hoping that for each A, B, C, and D you hit that 25% target!

The probability of you hitting that 25% target on all four traits at once is 0.4%.

And that's why you want to do little bits at a time- Mix some 50%s or 100%s in there so that you can approach that final AA, BB, CC, DD configuration with higher chances of success!

You can do it, just pace yourself over generations and have a plan!

Thanks! That was very helpful!
I'll post more questions when I finally get started with the project. :)