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Ragnaroc
Level 70
Frosty Hands
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Posted: 5/7/2013 at 2:55 PM Post #81
Oh! That is how you ping people? I was just using that to identify the comments of people I was addressing.

Generally when I think of witches I think of Black and White whites and well the grayish ones(rare). All but Black witches are generally okay but black witches use death and blood magic and that is really nasty stuff.

As for the angel debate not having them a main race is fine with me as long as my character can still specialize in them. I had no intention of ever making them appear for more than one or two major 'hunts' (you don't really hunt a fallen angel it lets you find it then beats the snot out of you for bothering it) even less if you rather and if we did hunt them it would be only fallen ones unless of course the world ended. Also we probably have random solo missions outside of the group(I for one am making a missions bored so that when we have down time at base whoever hunts vampires will have something to share with the group) so it is more or less likely that my character my only mention any mission he would be given and never actually fight a major angel battle with the group as the group would not be hunting them.

As for what they are. Angels are not Harpies I put harpies in the same category as manticores, centaurs, satyrs, griffons, dragons and generally the magical creatures that border fae and generally stem from mythology. Angels don't belong there, they are divine otherworldly creatures. I was worried about them being recognized as bird people so I sent a brief definitions how I would like them viewed to our Admin because of her prior post. It was approved but no one else had posted at the time so I will post it now to be debated. It also includes demons.

Also in my option that is a poor example of a Harpie, male or female because they generally have a complete bird like body with the chest and head of a human and they never have horns.



(I didn't post on with a human chest as harpies have bare chests and I was worried the site would freak about nudity)

Here is the exact message I sent:

This is how I view angels and demons for the rp.

Angels are other worldly being comprised completely of energy they occasionally take on humanoid form when appearing on earth. When in humanoid form they possess large wings ranging in tones of brown to gray to white and rarely red or black. They do not have halos.

Demons are any creatures originating from what humans know as Hell. I have not renamed those areas yet but will if you wish it. Generally demons are creatures of anamorphic anti-matter, (black goo that can transform). Originally I was going to note that they have many many species and are not all blobs of anti-matter but I figured that was to close to what a demon actually was for you.

This is how I view the demons and angels for this rp please tell me if this is okay. Having angels be bird people does not make them angels it makes them bird monsters and dragon people are a legitimate race so I don't want them being made into demons.

Thank for your time.


As for Fae, they aren't my specialty so I guess I can't argue them but there are ALOT and they eat people so I don't' see why they shouldn't be major other than you have to be really good in combat to fight them and an obsessive student.
Edited By on 5/7/2013 at 3:05 PM.
Alenaria
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Posted: 5/7/2013 at 5:58 PM Post #82
'Fae' might be just a tad too broad for a specialty, though I agree that most of the time they are, in fact, evil. If they're not oughtright trying to kill you, eat you, or trap you in their dance, they want something from you. Most of them, at least. There are quite a few helpful ones, but they're still the minority.

I don't see how a half-human werewolf is any more sane than a full-wolf one. In fact, I would think it would be less likely to control itself, and the half-shape being a sign of the human not letting go of the body, resulting in a conflict between the two minds that prevents the werewolf from keeping control-- And the farm boy gets eaten. However, a full-wolf shift would come from a peaceful, shared mind, and a willingness to be a wolf. Wolves, in truth, are gentle creatures, hardly ever attacking humans unless they're driven crazy with disease, hunger, cold, or all three. A full-wolf werewolf seems more sane, and much more in control.

And, being a Wiccan myself, I would be very uncomfortable if we started hunting down witches. Just sayin'.
Ragnaroc
Level 70
Frosty Hands
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Posted: 5/7/2013 at 6:21 PM Post #83
Oh!...that's a sane means of thinking. I wish my brain would work like that sometimes. I completely agree with the werewolf statement so long as it is not a full-shifted wolf that has taken on half-shifted form in order to surpassed some form of trouble.

Example: Full shifted wolf takes on half shifted form to rip a deadbolt off a door and save it's mate.

YAY someone understands fae! Umm so you are suggesting that if one were to take on fae as a class they should take on a particular one say....kelpies? or trolls not the whole of Fae but part of it? A bit limited but I'm fine with it and it makes more sense. If someone does that it means there is probably other NPCs somewhere taking on the rest of them as long as they are addressed(just the knowledge that NPCs running around saving us, not even mentioned in rp) not directly jus as a problem I'm happy.

Oh by no means did I want a witch hunt of that nature. I only- okay in various readings I have done there are Black Mages or Blood Mages and or Black or Blood Witches, they will drain the blood of creatures, cut them up, nail them, rip there skin off and keep them alive , torture,****** or kill whatever the poor victim is in order to gain power, this is generally deemed as Black or Blood magic in my case. Wiccans I generally see as using white or friendly magic but I'm not a wiccan so I'm not sure. I did not mean to offend you and if it bothers you we don't need to hunt Black Witches.

One thing we should figure out is how many people do we have, how many big bads do we need(thus how many creatures) and how to we incorporate new people, do we just lock it down after we have an even number of people and begin or should we find away to rotate big bads so that new people can enter.
Alenaria
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Posted: 5/7/2013 at 9:22 PM Post #84
If not entirely fictitious, people who practice magic of such a nature probably... Wouldn't live very long. The universe gives back what you put out-- With a times-three multiplier. Still, I would feel a bit uncomfortable.

No, the wolf-form represents the werewolf's state of mind on the whole. An angry wolf is an angry wolf, and he would probably just throw himself against the door until it broke. But he wouldn't change forms just like that.

I think 'Fae' should be divided into groups-- Earth Fae, for trolls, dryads, stone giants, and the like, Water Fae, for mermaids, kelpies, water nymphs, etc., and Air Fae, for pixies, and whatever else probably goes here. I don't want to have to come up with a half-dozen examples. Now, this is if we even decide to include the Fae in our RP. We might not-- The more I look at it, the more I think it's too big.

We might want to decide on color schemes for the schools too. I like red and gold for the vampire hunters. What do you guys think?

And guys, just because I say I'm cool with something, by no means feel you have to go with it. There's an unspoken clause there. 'I'm cool with this, so long as everyone else is.' It's no fun if no one else is having fun.
Ruinia
Level 60
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Posted: 5/7/2013 at 9:34 PM Post #85
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We might want to decide on color schemes for the schools too. I like red and gold for the vampire hunters. What do you guys think?


Man, colors is my weakness! XDDDD
I'd put pastel colors for my school if I'm given the opportunity to! Okay so I think I wouldn't make any changes to my current character... though I'm a bit confused on what school she should be in... She'll be an expert marksman, but totally human, no mutation or whatsoever. Any suggestion?

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And guys, just because I say I'm cool with something, by no means feel you have to go with it. There's an unspoken clause there. 'I'm cool with this, so long as everyone else is.' It's no fun if no one else is having fun.


No worries, that's why I was waiting for your opinion too, I refer to you as boss because you are the OP! XD But this is a discussion, everyone has to agree on something if not, follow the majority.
Edited By on 5/7/2013 at 9:35 PM.
EraNime
Level 69
Warden of Umbra
Joined: 2/5/2013
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Posted: 5/8/2013 at 4:37 AM Post #86
Those old fashioned harpies are outdated. The old vampires where not handsome, secuctive or good looking either. They where creepy old dudes who turned into bats. A lot has changed on human perception of how monsers should be. Modern harpies are more often than not portrayed with human or at least half human bodies.


I liked the basic idea of monster hunting, here, on earth, with earthly creatures. Creatures that live on the same place as us humans and are just different species who tend to do evil things. This way it is not all that weird to imagine that humans could defeat them with proper training. Creatures from hell and heaven however should be a lot a stronger, I do not believe there would be any human that can take anything like that on their own with it feeling realistic. So again, Angels and Demons from heaven and hell. To big. Similar creatures right from earth just like us. Good. The moment we start adding angels and demons from heaven and hell is the moment I feel this rp doesn't feel realistic and I will lose fun playing it. It comes over arrogant to think humans could defeat such creatures on their own. We will overpower humans, and that just feels wrong to me. I like the idea of a rp where we can show in a realistic way how humans can overpower creatures that are slightly stronger than they are, but them being from the same world means they have mortal weaknesses and therefore humans can take them down with lost of training and hard work. That feels like a bigger victory or acomplishment then we start to take down those other plain creatures like from heaven and hell. It makes teh struggle on earts seem insignifant. To me anyhow.

My demons are not in any way shape or form from hell. They are (again) creatures with horns, green/red blue etc skin, wings, claws you name it. There are many options. It is just how they look, not where they are from.

I drop out of the wherewolf debate. Do what you wish. I am not playing a wherwwolf anyway. My only must for any wherewolf type, they depend on the full moon and can not shift into normal looking wolves. (That is shapeshifting and we also have shapeshifters). All wherewolves look like some kind of human wolf mix. Like they stand on 2 legs, or have longed front paws, etc.. Wolfy, but not wolf. They are not wolfs, they are wherewolfs. Very huge difference.

And again, witches are there in many forms. The witches I would hunt would be those demon like types that go after children. Not humans with magical abilities. They can be there, but they would not be hunted because they are human. Same for wherewolves who live normal human lives when not transformed by the moon.

I also don't think we should add dragons and stuff. That makes this to much fantasy instead of monster. Monsters are fantasy too but a different kind of fantasy. You don't want to mix to much fandoms into one. Things will get messy.
Which is also why I am not pro angels/hell demons. That is also a different fandom. And a character that has angels as specialty bugs me a lot. Angels seem like creatures of a whole other level. That would feel like that character is to strong to be able to take out an angel all by himself. So I am very sorry, but if this angel thing is sticking, I'm leaving. I will not be able to enjoy this rp being bugged by the angel thing demon thing. Especially because I dont want the demons my character would hunt to be from hell. But it does not make sense to have angels from heaven, but to not have demons from hell. SO If I want to hunt normal demons who are not from hell, there can not be creatures from heaven. Bird people would solve it. You get to hunt creatures similar to angels, but they aren't. And they can use that to manipulate humans, which is very dangerous.

I am/was really looking foreward to this rp a lot. Buffy the vampire slayer being one of my old childhood fave series.
I like focusing on monsters and how to take them down. I don't like adding to many elements. Besides, there being angels from heaven and demons from hell would mean there would also be gods. That means it does not make sense if some evil god does not appear. However when an evil god appears we are all screwed because we do not have super powers like say the avangers. We play normal humans who trained and devolped skills to take down creatures, not gods. So our hunters would not be able to win from an evil god. Which brings us to an dead end. Really please, I am begging now, lets stay away from anything god,angel,demon from hell, related in this rp.



As for school or building collours. I'm fine with anything^^. Most of our characters will not be on school anyway. Those on schools are not yet ready to face real monster hunting and as we are playing full fledged monster hunters they should have their degree already. At best we could play teachers there lol.

Is everyone that wanted to join in the beginning still with us? So far I mostly see Ruinia, Ragnaroc, Alenaria and myself.



Ragnaroc
Level 70
Frosty Hands
Joined: 1/14/2013
Threads: 43
Posts: 962
Posted: 5/8/2013 at 2:42 PM Post #87
The don't last long ever but I here you okay we don't need to do witches.

Amber there is still the major problem of if we use only earth based we will ether go way into mythology or not have enough creatures. And as for not of this earth, I don't view shifters as of earth. Which removes another creature. I don't know what to do about that. And obviously we can't take down angels we can only imprison them...unless we get a demon to eat it.

I've stated my points on the werewolf debate. I have a suggestion though, an alternate for normal looking wolves because that was protested about. Werewolves are probably rather fit creatures and when one shifts it has to take that mass and make it into another form...how about we calculate that as muscle because werewolves would have a lot of it we can reconstruct there torsos into something blockier more like a bear than a wolf, still obvious wolf in appearance but thicker, heavier and denser. It may make them incapable of swimming because they will not have enough body fat. Just a suggestion.

I back not adding magical creatures.

Angels...Amber what if I build an earth bound creature similar to angels, not bird people but not from heaven ether like how you have a definition for earth bound demon?

I like colors...our characters could have a badge or be given dress in the colors of their 'school'. It depends on how dependent we are on the organization do we get to buy out own stuff or are we feet and clothed and given weapons and told to go kill stuff? Are you thinking like a crimson and true shiny gold or like a wine-burgundy and goldenrod?

Edited By on 5/8/2013 at 2:54 PM.
Alenaria
Level 58
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Posts: 730
Posted: 5/8/2013 at 6:01 PM Post #88
Crimson and goldenrod, was my thought.

You bring up some good points, Amber. Realism should be kept in mind. Though the first werewolves were full-wolf shifts. They only became human-wolf mixes after the movie The Wolfman came out way back when. Shapeshifters would have little restriction on their animal forms and be able to change whenever, while werewolves only have the one shape, and they only change at the full moon. There's the difference.

And Ruinia was talking about having 'Hunt outfits,' so our identities are protected. The outfits would be in these colors, and we'd wear some small badge in the same, to help identify Guild members in mundane dress.
Ragnaroc
Level 70
Frosty Hands
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Posts: 962
Posted: 5/8/2013 at 6:17 PM Post #89
I think that is within reason. ^_^
Ruinia
Level 60
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Posted: 5/8/2013 at 8:35 PM Post #90
What about tattoos too? Or markings? Well, not all school uses this, only some! I'm still confused on what type of hunter my character should be... :/

Probably I'm going to meditate for inspiration. XDDDDD

Combinations of royal colors are good too, like dark blue and dark purple. Okay, how many type of hunters do we have? So we can start to assign their 'colors' and all.
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