alright I'll keep a eye out for it :)

First thing first, I do not expect you to do anything about it, it's between me and the owner of the other parent. Second, it's ridiculous of me to ask for the offspring of my sylesti to be named, but it's completely okay and normal of you to order people what to do with their sylesti? That looks awfully hypocritical. :/

I'm sorry that I care about my pets and especially so for those given to me. I'm sorry that a colorful, digital sploch matters to me and I don't want it being neglected, treated as fodder or just a means to an end, but that's who I am.

Now, what's your deal? I first thought you did not want people profiting off of them, but you seem perfectly fine with the breeding fee being changed. And it's not really about giving back to the community as you literally went and claimed the pet for an eternity (and I'm being a weirdo and ridiculous). So do explain what's the point of this?

a) Your original comment indicated to me there could be some issues with my contract if I gave it to you. So I needed to make sure you know I have no control over what people do when they breed to the pet I'd give you. Nor do I plan on controlling it. I do not want any misunderstandings, everything should be clear before the contract is made and accepted.

b) That's fine. Everyone plays the game in ways they find fun.

c) Edit to c) because I think it needs to be said as part of contract:
I don't have to explain myself, but I will anyways. My deal: I never said I don't want people profiting off my pets. I made an exception for Painteventer because she won and I didn't want that small thing to become a barrier. So, I made a special situation deal for her. If she ever exceeds 300k in gold earning from a nonfabled simply from breeds- she'd have to set the breed cost lower. I don't have to give back, I do it to help the community and help the new plyrs grow with cheap breeding costs. I got a couple folks to try out the game when I was new to the game- the guy that made it the furthest out of all of them had 1 complaint and that was related to how long it would take to create a maxstat. That's fine, but even creating a 6vis takes ages and to get the resources for a new player- it's tough. Again, I'm not giving back. I'm helping the economy grow for new players. Older players will always have some sort of advantage, it'll be tougher to get into the game the older it is because well for example- avatar boxes get new items added to them every year and some. The purpose of availability in low breeding cost helps new players. If people have feelings against this- namely, folks feel it makes new plyrs entitled. My goal is to help the game grow. The people that enjoy the game will stick around and continue playing, the rest that don't will stop playing either way. It's a hit or miss- but that's how good things start. You branch out as much as possible and take what you can get. The game could have a bigger playerbase, more poeple in LG grinding would be nice too. It's an investment in economy of the game. If participating in contests and winning pets there means I'm claimining pets for an eternity- well it's only fair. I wouldn't mind if Krinadon made some changes. For example, he could put a limit on how many 3vis or 2vises 1 player can have. Or whatever he decides to do with it.


I said I can make exceptions. I would consider letting you have it without a contract. Or maybe we can make a special deal in your contract. That you'd have rights to letting others breed only if they agree to give the offspring a name (of their choice, have some freedom too, right?)
Also, if you think I'm controlling "your sylesti" ...the one that I would supposedly give you- well I'm sorry to say. It's mine, and it comes with a contract. If your proposal to have people whom would be breeding to it conflicts with my contract then that's something I need to think about. Forcing the subject this early isn't helping me. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're having a bad day. So, good luck to you and I hope you feel better later. Lastly, I have a lot to say about this. I'll keep it for another time.

[neutral tone]
Thank you for taking the time to explain yourself. I'll refrain from discussing most of it right now as it seems I'm getting on your nerves. I don't know if it's my english, phrasing or lack of intonation due to written text, regardless sorry for that.
A couple of things I will comment on (as you misunderstood me again) - it has nothing to do with you winning a contest; your contract is not "have it up for breeding for x months" or "let 100 people breed with it", your literal wording is "make it available for an eternity". Also, no offense, once a pet is sold/given away it is not yours anymore.
(just gonna put this here because the whole paragraph was about helping new players) You do understand that new players can only obtain 2vis/3vis pets on their own and Krinadon puting a limit on those only hurts the new players, right? Meaning they would either have to purchase a finished 6vis from an older player (that had unlimited pets at their disposal to make that project) or be forced to negotiate breeding with other people. And here I go ranting even though I said I wouldn't...
You also have no pets up for breeding yourself. c:

[tired, confused tone]
I had some questions about being a new player and the strugles you speak of (for 5 month in you are doing pretty well yourself), but I forgot. Maybe tomorrow me will know better.
Oh and if by "this early" you mean in the day, I don't think we are in the same timezone.

[spooked, hyped tone]
So... Irrelevant but Cornucopia just spawned in my message and I booped it aand it ate my message. Almost made me panic. :D

"Also, no offense, once a pet is sold/given away it is not yours anymore." Unless, there was an agreement before the purchase was made. i.e. I give someone something to use and obviously it'd have to be "sold" inorder for them to use it. So, an agreement would have to be made there - and if that agreement is broken, well that's part of the agreement that goes with the purchase especially if I want said thing back. I can't find the thread right now where Krinadon explains this stuff because I'm trying to make the behemoth guide right now.

"this early" because I had already said I'm going to need some time thinking about making exceptions for your contract, if possible at all.

As for the struggles, if you're not having them- then good for you. I have a vision for how economy could be for new players, so it relates to that a bit.

As for putting a limit on 3vis and 2vis- it's because I won top 5 rank on all the nurtureboards on all 3 contests. I could've gone for battleboards too but I was busy irl and with harassment after contest 1 ended aswell as irl stuff. Hasn't been a good month. The idea came solely to propose a solution to the complaints people made yabout me winning so many boards. But, you're right. I misunderstood what you meant by "reclaimed the pet for an eternity"

Honestly, if you don't agree to my contract. I'm sorry, you can't have it. It's simple as that. I don't need to hear "I bought it, I own it" Yes, that's part of the rules, but if there's an agreement before purchase is made- that agreement has to be followed too. So, I'm not giving it away unless the contract is accepted. However, I will think about making some changes to the contract specifically for you. If you want. Best I've gotten so far from you is you'd like people to name the parent/offsprings that breed to the Bulbori. I'm fine with that as long as you accept the rest of my contract. Though, I could simply scratch the contract just for you- but like I said previously, I made the giveaway with the contract in mind. I didn't do contract with the people I already know and thought deserved to have the pet. Also there's some grey area for me, the idea is to permanently have them up for breeding at low prices so noobies and/or anyone can use them to get offsprings. If you started being picky with who gets what, that defeats the purpose of me giving these pets away. I could stop doing these giveaway. Sell what I can, release what I can't. It's what maxstat sellers do too.

In a nutshell, this giveaway gives folks an opportunity to have what they couldn't other wise with a contract. If I didn't win the pets, it'd probably make me life easier because I wouldn't have to do these threads. I don't like arguing, I want to get this done asap. You're the last winner that hasn't accepted the contract, yet. And I'm starting to think you don't want to follow it either because of what you said about "I buy it, I own it". It's made me skeptical. If you don't accept the contract, I'll pass it along to someone else.

You done with the edits? May I answer yet?

Also here you go.

Edit: that is a genuine question, I want to hear you out and respond accordingly, but I really can't tell if you're done or not.

Edit 2: before you bite my head off, I accept your contract. (:

Edit 2.1: want me to never speak to you again btw? It feels like I'm really getting on your nerves. ^^'

I'm done. Basically, this is an exception that Krinadon has made. I won't make the trade unless contract is agreed to.

@ because I'm guessing you'll miss the message above

Okay, tell you what. I'm going to make an exception to the contract, for you. The exception to your contract will be that you ask breeder to name them, though I think it will be tough to tell them what to name it so I think some freedom to the breeder would serve you well. Let them know if you have a name in mind, and if they say sure then yay you, but if they decide to go with a different, I guess now I'm being bossy, please let them have a choice too.

Make a new comment without edits accepting the contract, please :)

(as for not talking to me, that's upto you.)