So it is Troll Willow's fault after all? XD


It...sort of make sense for a good balance, and much more releastic a character. Strong in one area, but weak in another.

*Pats them both*

(Psssst Seb, I would ship you and Niamh <3)

(...Did I just made him blush?)



Well, for my world...about the universe itself, there are multiple dimensions within it, and there are two main...er just call it thingamajigs... that composes of these worlds. The higher world is those that are inhabited by the Mary Sue and Gary Stus of the Universe. The time flows much faster in these worlds. And there are the lower worlds that are inhabited by other creatures, and in between there are a mix. The Mary Sues and Gary Sues cannot stay in the lower worlds for long because it rejects them due to having more Thingamajigs of the higher world in their bodies. Vice versa for the creatures of the lower worlds. (Well, more like they die instead of being booted but anyway.)
Come to think of it, I just stuck higher and lower as a label, but it would make sense to call them faster and slower because they don't literally vary in height. XD (I guess I will change it).

And well, Mary-suish they may be, but my favourite stories actually have something like Gods and extremely strong beings in them in comparison to humans. But yet they don't annoy us readers because there are more than one of them, and each have a different agenda that conflicts/slightly differs from others (and so they can fight against one another), their abilities are also presently restricted in the story and are lesser in numbers (so they can't recklessly attack cities with many human magicians or else they can be killed), and can also be swayed/manipulated by others as well. And the whole story world doesn't revolve around them.
(Not sure if I have the skill to pull this off though. XD)




And as for Cian, I removed his hand-in-pocket. I think that arm is too short, I will redraw it later. I will probably move the tattoo around afterwards too. Right now part of it is floating in air.



I think abs are prevalent in my artwork. (This is the original colouring of the Ny'vene before I limited it to the colour areas.)

Yep, when I first made Niamh I was not fond of her, she was arrogant, (as she should have been being a great hunter and what not) a snob and just a huge Di...Jerk. Now she is far better as a character but still retains a bit of her arrogant jerkyness lol. And its why I love Seb so much (even though I am always talking about Cian, Seb holds my heart lol) because he contrasts to Niamh so well. Where she is confident he is not, where she is street smart he is book smart, where she is sarcastic he is bashful.

(I love how you know my char so well lol. He went beetroot red)

It sounds like a very interesting, and cool concept. I would love to hear more about the two worlds :). So they are aware of one another, and it is not too hard to travel between the worlds? Believe in yourself and you can do it.


Floating tattoo.. I did not know that Cian was magic lol //shot

Nothing wrong with abs lol. I am glad that you decided to limit the colour areas though, a tank hatching would be scary lol, and I do so much love the one you got :D

One can say that arrogant jerkyness is a flaw.
You love Cian for him abs and ladykillerness, and Seb holds your heart. So Dani, don't worry if me and Willow borrows him for a while...........................put down that frying pan...
Now I am wondering...do they have any similarities?

(Aww <3 I think he is cute.)
Hmm...it is possible for him to go any redder? XD

There are more than two worlds and they all lie on a spectrum between fast and slow words. (There are some leaning towards the faster side, vice versa for the slower.)
Travelling is possible, and not everyone is aware of other worlds because it is difficult. For now, I made it that one of the Mary Sues/Gary Stus with the ability of Creation/IDK/[Insert something else here] made some portals to be able to pass through them. You need a lot of energy/magic/vigor/IDK to pass through, and not many creatures can do so.
But but but what if I stuff up? >.<

His abs are magic. 8D

Hatchling on steroids! XD Actually I was going to make some organs show through so they wouldn't be as prominant (hence why one side is kind of unfinished), but I accidentally merged them while copy pasting.

And you know my Downy Woodpecker Nyte? I think all her kids so far have Petal Markings. I think I should go and buy others off Xavion. (Seriously you Nyte gods, I am not going to do chicken dan- I mean pray to you anymore!)

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What do you think? I might actually use my vulnyx essences I have been hoarding for this instead of leaving them to rot for another 100 days in my inventory. XD

Who have any similarities? Cian and Seb or Niamh and Dani // shot

(So do I, *psst I totally ship them.. can the original owner ship their creations..? O.o*)
I don't think so.. though if he is not careful he will lose consciousness. Seriously that must not be good for the body, to be that red in the face for that long lol..

ahh well I like the sound of that, and it sounds like you have thought that through really well, so as not to be mary-sueish. Believe in yourself *gives you some of Cian's confidence, he has enough to share about lol*


Ohh I hate when I do that, especially when I have merged without realising it T-T done that a few times

*puts out bird feeder* she did not mean that God Nyts I promise..

OMG I love it, its to fluffy, and that Tail!! I so want to make a Vul with that mut aha :D

I mean Niamh and Seb...but now I am wondering if Niamh and Dani are kind of alike. XD

(I think you can! XD)
Okay. (I better not make him faint. *Pats Seb*)

(You know, you haven't seen the Regenerating and Unkillable Mary Sues and Gary Stus of the universe with powers far exceeding all the other creatures. Maybe I should do something else like limit their strength (like my favourite webtoon) so they can't wipe out everything.
And while they can have kids, their kids are not immortal. Although they are still quite strong...maybe I should make them have infertility of some sort. Or else they wll have enough children to fill the entire world. XD

Pros for being a Mary Sue or Gary Stu:
Unimaginable power
No dying
Regeneration
May have 1-2 other skills on top.

Cons:
Need to stay in the faster worlds for most of the time, the faster worlds are quite desolated and combined with the fact that time flows faster...you will be bored silly or have to find other ways to entertain yourself.
Will see your children die over time because they are not immortal like you.

[Creeper Mode Activated]
*Grabs Cian's confidence and locks it in a box and hides it under bed because it is Cian's precious confidence.* //just joking, joking...why are you still looking at me like that? You don't believe me?

(It is unreasonable especially after embarassing myself!)
Anyway...*shows off new nyte*
http://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=803313

Thanks!
I also wonder if I should add something else like a wing gene, but I don't like how it covers a lot of the body:



His tattoo is back and his arm lengthened. I feel like Frankenstein, moving bits of Cian's arms and his head around. XD

ahhhh lol *not telling for Dani and Niamh ;p *. Ahh well Niamh and Seb... hmm Well Seb is actually a really honouable person and although he is a huge wimp he would also lay down his life for those he loved, this is one thing he has in common with Niamh. She pushes people away but for those whom she deems as friend she would lay down her life for. And they both have secrets.. though Niamh's secrets are pretty well known by everyone.. not by her doing aha.. she has a guardian who is a terrible secret keeper *which is a worry because he is in charge of the angels in their land.. eek someone was high when they put his name forward..* ahh pretty much no.. Niamh and Seb are very different but I think it is good for them to have that contrast.

I'd cuddle him but I know what happens when he even lightly brushes past one let alone to get hugged by one lol. *hands Seb a cigarette to calm him down* this is his only vice, poor guy needs a******(not to be taken the wrong way to all you creepers who are watching these chats O.O) to calm himself down.

lol I love Pro and con lists aha :D and those are some pretty cool pro's (and cons). Maybe the infertility thing is a good idea. If I am making gods(godly char) I generally make them either infertile *though they do "die" and are reborn into the world, by a human* just to spice things up lol.
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*Dani grabs the frying pan* O.o

Pretty Nyt you have there, I am still waiting for that male to become an adult so I can set him for you :)

I like the wing mut, but I do agree it does take away a lot of the body


oh lol he is looking so great. I love the tattoo.

(Too similar? XD) And now I want to know both their secrets. (Is this the ability of an good author? To make readers want to know more??)

I wouldn't think he smoke until you said so. o.o

Being reborn is kind of awkward, when you have a lot of mommies and daddies and are older than them all. XD And when you are a baby and can't move around, and they have to change all your nappies and feed you and stuff~

It is not like most want to have many kids anyway when they have seen them die again and again, but it would prevent those that want to make an army of kids and take on the rest of them. And while it would be normal across the Mary Sues and Gary Stus, I did some research there are some stigmas associated (especially with male infertility) so...
human/any other non-Sue creatures: "You are a god but also infertile? You can't get it up? I am guessing you are not popular with the ladies?"
Gary Stus: "....."
This is passed down to their kids, although to a lesser degree. And now the mad scientist in me want to make up an explaination for all that...

I also want them to have human flaws. There are racism and gender discrimination in our society. I would want to make something similar with them, except that those that cannot fight well (their ability are not suited for combat) are discriminated against. And maybe like the humans, they are moving away from it...

*Infuses Cian's confidence into the electric cake mixer for a weapon to match Dani's frying pan*

Well, yeah... @_@ Now back to debating what to do with it...

I think his hand right looks awkward, although that could be due to the position of the chocolate box.

(Come to think of it, have you spotted any outstanding grammar mistakes in my posts? From what my sister said, I make lots. XD)

(Mhh Yes and no,) Lol yes, You always want people to want to know more, to feel love and hate for characters, to "live" life with them and connect. :)

Yeah it was his coping mechanism when his wife died, that was back when smoking was really cool. He doesn't do it often but every now and then he gets so stressed, (I'd say it was his safety for a panic attack though I am sure it would only make it worse lol)

Yep (is apparently not so good at mary-sue aha) they are reborn for many reasons, 1 is to become reconnected with their world and the creatures that live with in and another is to learn to love humans Though they never have their godly powers from birth that would be weird, aha, there is usually a period in time when they awaken as gods.

Yes that would probably put me off having kids if I was just to watch them grow old and die, I'd be sad. It is all sounding good, For ever pro make a couple of flaws :) that is the key

I think its the chocolate box :D


I had not noticed anything overly Grammar Nazi worth, :)

Finally back after surfing the four corners of the internet.


T-T (I want to hug you now Seb. I mean it is just.......... *sniffs*)

*Grabs your ability for avoiding Mary Sues.* I want!
Okay. Then...do they regain memories of their past lives? Because if they did, it would be interesting to see how their personality changes, since your personality is usually as a result of your experience in life (and if you don't remember it, you may as well haven't gone through it.)
(...I sound kind of like a scientist observing a specimen now. XD)

Their children don't grow old (which is not abnormal in the world since there are plenty of other creatures that doesn't age). The Mary Sues and Gary Stus have existed from close to the beginning of the worlds/universes (it sounds quite Sue-ish now) and so...even if their kids are unable to die from aging, sooner or later they will die from other causes. And it will happen again and again and again. (And it is a depressing thought to look at your kids and knowing they will all die when you are still existing...). Some of them may emotionally detact themselves and a few don't care (hence the having an army of kids for taking over.)


Guess who has the frying pan? XD
And does it look more natural now? I also redrew his entire chocolate-holding hand. (And it is grey because I am using something to dim the screen, didn't know a screenshot would capture it.)

Yay. :D By the way, have you ever gone Grammar Nazi on anyone? XD

Lovely :o