Oh yeah, I can still use Lupes. I've never actually had my own for those, only borrowed for breeding ^^

Lets see.... 6tp =1,000,000, +500k for being something I can use immediately, love that Hellhound and Battle Scar Combo on the M1 so that's 200k added (100k each)

1,700,000 value.

Would that be tacked on to your current offer or would there be some changes? :)

Tack it on to the existing offer, thanks :)

Your offer has been outmatched

I'll bump total value up to 8.5 mill.

Happy to do pure gold but curious if you would value philiters/items more. I have lots of Lesser dyes and some of everything else, however, I value them at full current value so I will not include them unless it comes down to preference over value.

As a side note, I've also begun embarking on a super max ferikki project early stage, all offspring but they are in the 550+ range for extra health stats if that interests you?

Sorry but I'll have to hold firm on the values I listed for the items. I don't intend to edit my first post for reasons of principle, and I certainly can't say "okay I'll value your LPDs at 100k but for everyone else it's 50k"

Summer Fest should be coming soon enough as well, and usually that means easier ways for people to get these items. During such a time the cost on the broker goes down quite significantly; I'd rather have the gold to buy them at 50k and below later than use the current value for the items now and end up with half the stock I could have. Mm, that still doesn't feel like its worded right. Simply put with an example, taking 500k in gold would give me 10 or more pet dyes once the festival rolls in and the prices drop; if I put dyes to current value now, 500k worth would only be like... 5.

I don't mean to undervalue the items if that's how it seems; when you need hundreds upon hundreds of dyes like I do, it's better to plan for the long-term. And long-term, patiently waiting for dyes at 50k is better than dyes at 100k now. But I still like dyes, still need dyes, so dyes valued at 50k I will take for trade. I hope the explanation helps?


As for Ferrikki, I've already got superstats for those so I can't say I'm too interested. Wild stats deteriorate pretty quickly (~5-10% per generation, ~15% for mana which is brutal in my opinion) so... early project at 500-600 on the hp will likely end close to what I have. I'd have an easier go of it breeding more supers to breed back to my legendary rikki and hoping for a good result, and it would be in the right colorscheme as well meaning I wouldn't have to spend 12 or so dyes after I get a good RNG result for the stats. ^^;

Hmm... this is tricky.

Sorry, Dark.

I would like to add 2 masterful snares and 10 LPDs to my offer.

Sorry, my last post was worded oddly I suppose. I'm not asking you to value them higher. I know you won't and you shouldn't on principal of fairness to everyone.

I meant I will not sell them undervalue like that unless you are valuing an offer with them higher than buying them yourself later. As in lesser dyes are 70k on broke ATM so I'd value them at 70k as I can sell them for that. However, if you are more likely to accept an offer with lesser dyes to just pure gold, then I will relent and add them at your value of 50k. I will offer a couple of my greater dyes/mutators but am most likely to part with the lesser dyes as I can offer the entire trade in lesser dyes, should you want that many.

My Rikkis will be staying in the 600 + stat range for my final project (At least that's the attempt being made). anything under that will be weeded out, which are the offspring I'd be offering to you. Didn't think you'd be interested but for the sake of making sure I offer things you like most, wanted to offer the option since it's the only option I can pet-wise. No worries on that one :)

And Falk's offer is an additional 1.5 mill for a total of 9.6? I'll up mine to 10 mill then.

Can also do a mix of gold and diamonds if you would prefer.

Here is an example of a riki baby I won't be keeping based on stats.

https://www.sylestia.com/view/pets/?petid=5032219

"However, if you are more likely to accept an offer with lesser dyes to just pure gold"


Ahh, not entirely sure what you mean here? The intention of sticking value tags on everything was strictly so I can't deny someone based on a personal preference.


For example: 10 LPDs would hold the same value as 1 Master Trap. 500k value is 500k value; there's nothing more to it.

Had I not determined a pre-set value publicly and those offering weren't openly given the value of the items, there was a risk that I'd think along the lines of "Well I value these items the same, but I like ____ more so I'll accept their offer instead." I wanted to take my preferences out of the equation, both the preference between items and the preference between people. It was the best way I could think of to make it a fair playing field.


Theoretically I suppose I did leave a potential hole for two offers of equal value becoming a "this is my final offer" situation. For example, 5,000,000 gold vs 100 pet dyes. The dyes would equal the value of the 5 mil gold... Hm. *gives it some thought*

If left with a choice of A or B with neither willing to counter the other offer, I would choose the dyes. Gold is fairly easy to come by; currency is the currency of the land and it's the default trading medium. Dyes are harder to come by in trade, especially in such bulk. So I suppose if pressed to choose I'd choose dyes, but such a choice would only be made with a solid tie. With 5,000,001 gold vs 100 pet dyes, the gold wins.
(On a personal level I would be kicking myself in the butt for it and would likely call myself an idiot for months to come any time I needed a pet dye, but value is value and I'm trying to make things as fair as I possibly can.)




As for accepting a mix of diamonds and gold (and/or a mix of items) that's totally fine as well. As explained above I'm not allowing myself to take preferences in the name of fairness; I'd be happy to accept anything off the list and in any number. (And I've been assuming your offer thus far is pure gold?)



As for your rikki, have you done superstats before? If not you may want to PM me - I can give you a rundown on the easiest method to make it work. (From what I see, it looks like you don't have a stats pet already? You'll be fighting an uphill battle if you're adding +10% base stats while losing ~10% of your wild stats for each generation .__.; )

Link: https://www.sylestia.com/forums/?thread=78908&page=2#16 Author: Falkinsey Time Posted: 7/25/2019 at 11:12 AM Hmm... this is tricky. Sorry, Dark. I would like to add 2 masterful snares and 10 LPDs to my offer.

*looks at extremely long explanation posts*

Heh, tricky indeed. I think my attempt at simplifying things has only made them more complicated. .__.;
( Just like everything else in my life, go figure XD )


Dark has upped her offer to 10 mil.

Thank you for the explanation, in my experience, I've watched many many people accept an offer less value wise just because they wanted the items over the currency, so I just didn't want to handicap myself that way. Sorry if it confused you. 10 mill, gold, diamonds, lesser dyes whatever mix you'd like. I'll just go with that. That stands for any additional offer I might end up making. Those 3 items in whatever ratios you like to equal total value.

(Also same for the simplification thing, I try to keep it simple and only end up confusing everyone, my apologies again lol)