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Xanllan
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Posted: 6/9/2017 at 5:15 PM Post #161
hey we were both right about all the characters although i didn't see that one with christopher robin coming.
man...thinking on things in that perspective makes childhood shows questionable lol
Vulpinefire
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 9:06 AM Post #162
I know yeah, when I read that it was quite a shock to the system, though I suppose it's fitting.
I mean if the other characters have mental health issues and are a figment of Christopher's imagination, there's no way a child his age with no mental health issues of his own could come up with them.

Are you into psychology?
Xanllan
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 10:01 AM Post #163
not much. i took psychology in highschool and it was fairly interesting.

this is just an observation that i think you'll notice after a little while lol, ryliq likes to change her avatar every few days and it's always fun as to what she can come up with.

so here in a few days, i think i'm going to start an avatar dress up contest. but i'll have to think of a good prize
would you be interested?
Gee426
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 10:17 AM Post #164
I'm back again.

That's true, it's like whenever my friends do something that makes me upset. I forget it in about an hour but when they do something good, it lasts for ages!

Yeah, it is really hard when that happens. When we gave him up, we hoped that the house would calm down and we could bring him back, he originally only went to my friends just for a few months max a year but it never settled and now it's probably too late because he's getting old. :( But still, his bad times were made up for with good.

Right, it is very hard to change people's ways. Once their set in their ways it's hard to stop that and sometimes it's difficult to even find out who does it, this just leads to people getting away with it and thinking that they can do it if they feel like it without any difficulties. I also don't understand that if they are going to abandon get rid of the pet why don't they just give it away? And after they abandon it what is they need to harm it?

I know how that feels :T that's a long time to stop biting nails but I did expect it to take a while. Wow! Did you really? Great way to stop yourself! Make yourself expect pain whenever you bite so it drives it into your head that it's a bad idea. I can just ask my sister to do that, she would enjoy slapping my hand constantly. Or I could put a rubber band on my wrist.
Vulpinefire
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 11:02 AM Post #165
Oh, okay. I'm hugely interested in psychology myself.

What else did you study?

Haha, yeah, I did notice -loving her bunny ears, haha.

Hmm, it depends on whether we have to own the avatar items, or whether we can just create an outfit by using the preview option. If its the latter, then yeah, I would be, but if it's the former then, though I'd love to join in, I don't have enough avatar items to make a substantial outfit.
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Hollybolly426:
Welcome back, haha.

It does, or at least it does for most, some can't hold on to the happier moments. The pessimists of the world -though I can get behind them at times.

I can understand that, there have been times when our home has been rather hectic and times have gotten hard -still kind of are- and we've tried to struggle through it with the extra weight of animals being in our care, and sadly, we've had to give animals up to not only alleviate the stress but to also give them and the animals still in our care a better lifestyle.

The good always out way the bad, and though it was hard for him when you gave him to your friend, he probably thanks you for it, in a way. You spared him the stress of what you all had to deal with and instead gave him a stable and safe home, no matter how painful it was to give him to your friend. You all put his needs before your own and I'm sure he's thankful for that.

It's mainly down to their mentality, you'll find that the people who abandon their pets have mistreated them before the time they decide to abandon them, some having mistreated them all the animals life, and therefore don't care to take the time to give it away or to take it to an animal sanctuary. Some might even abandon them in hopes of people not seeing the sorry state the animal is already in and has been for an x-amount of time. And some harm them and then abandon them when, in their eyes, the animal has done something wrong that justifies such actions.

Haha, yeah. It's not really about the pain, though you, of course, feel pain, but mainly about the shock of it. You don't expect to be slapped when you're just sitting there watching TV -have you ever heard of someone spraying their dog with water as a way of correcting them? It's similar to that, in a way, it's more of a "what the hell" moment than an "ow, that hurt" moment. Or it should be.

Just remember to tell your sister that, I had a few people joining in when slapping me, and they weren't gentle. I never thought to use a rubber band, though I'd be reluctant to use it if I'm honest. They hurt a lot. Far more than I think I'd be willing to use on myself.
Gee426
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 11:52 AM Post #166
Yeah, although I am normally a pessimist, I find that happy moments are more memorable. Although, sometimes when something bad happens all of the other bad memories come back to me.

Yeah! It's really hard to get into a peaceful life which isn't stressful, which is to be honest why I can't wait to be old. That's also why we have decided not to get another pet because it's just too hard with the current rowdy life to have a pet that needs care and peace. It's very upsetting when you need to give a pet away but it is good for them to have a good life.

Yeah, that's very true, I always like to think of it that way that it is for his own benefit. And I have seen him in his new home and he does seem a lot happier and he is less rowdy. Now he doesn't bark as much at cars or people leaving. He doesn't get as annoyed when people aren't in the same room. It's nice that he is so calm now.

It's messed up though, they mistreat and then abandon them, I mean it's probably better for the pet to be out of there but it's not good if they are somewhere hidden without food. I can't imagine how it feels living your whole life being mistreated. It's a horrible world out there with many horrid people that can do that to an animal. What kind of thing could the animal do wrong to deserve that?

That's so true, I can imagine just randomly getting slapped. It would be so weird. Yeah, I've heard of that, I always figured it was a weird way of correcting them, I also never liked that way of putting it. It sounds like there's something wrong with them but onwards to the point. So true, whenever something weird happens suddenly, it's that moment. Normally, when that moment happens I automatically say "Ow" not that it hurts, it's just the shock like you said.

Oh dear, my sister probably would tell all of her friends to slap me whenever they see me. It's like my friend told us all to touch her sisters nose whenever we see her, it actually lasted a while and it really annoyed her sister too. It's true that the rubber bands hurt but at some point you get used to them. Also I've already had that done before, I wore a rubber band so I would stop saying random weird phrases that I made up, it apparently annoyed my friends. :T
Vulpinefire
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 4:43 PM Post #167
That is true, the bad can sometimes come together to drag you down, especially when the bad thing that just happened is similar to something else that's happened to you. We make connections with them.

Haha, I don't think it's about being old, or older in some cases, I think it's more of the fact of finding a balance within your life -we can all live fairly peaceful lives if we were to find the right combination. I understand that, and it's good you do too; it's best not to have a pet when you're unable to look after them the way they need you to look after them.

That's good. He sounds content there and that's the best thing for him, though of course it's good you've gone to see him -he hasn't lost you completely, and you haven't lost him completely.

Nothing, or at least in the eyes of people who have a heart and care for animals, it doesn't, but to those who own and treat them that way clearly don't care for the animal, so to them, they do deserve it. It's as I said earlier, down to their mentality, they don't care for or about animals and therefore do horrid acts to them, some using what they see as the animal misbehaving as a reason to that mistreatment.

Hmm, I think it depends on how you look at it, really. Say when a child gets an answer wrong in class, the teacher corrects them, it's much like that, when people say it they don't mean there's something wrong with the animal, or that they are reconfiguring their entire behavioural habits or personality, just that in that instance they have behaved wrongly and are correcting that instance. It's all about perspective.

I don't find it weird myself, I think of it as a good thing, and rather intuitive. I'd rather have someone do that than for them to smack them for bad behaviour.

Haha, it was much the same when I was trying to stop biting my nails, my family saw it as a fun way to mess with me, and therefore all had a go.

I know this has nothing to do with the above, other than the little bit about your friend's sister, but the only way to wake me up is by touching my nose. No amount of shaking or shouting will wake me otherwise.
Gee426
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 5:09 PM Post #168
Yeah, it's like one thing connects with another and it just brings you back to a moment that happened a while ago and you get dragged back by that, rather than focusing on the current time, you're caught up on the past bad incidents just because another happened.

Yes that is very true, but I mean because when you're old and retired, you don't have to leave everyday for work. You can relax and you're possibly happily married so there's no worry about whether you'll end up alone. It just seems like a much better way of life. It is great for pets to live in a quiet and caring household, that way there's less problems for them.

Yeah, I think he's getting over his past and I do see him at least once a week or maybe twice a month, unless my friend's away.

That's true, in the people who care's eyes it's despicable and a horrible thing to do but in the other's eyes they just despise everything in the world and it's terrible and the animals definitely don't deserve that! It's like those people that believe animals are less important than humans and don't deserve as much as them. I wonder if they don't care for humans either because animals are living and feel pain too and it's just an excuse to let them make those animals suffer.

Oh dear lord, I hated it when teachers corrected me, they terrified me. Whenever they did anything I thought, "Oh dear Lord they're looking me! What do they want? What did I do wrong?" But yes, that does sounds accurate. People just want to change small behavioural problems with an animal.

True, it is a less painful way of fixing habits or behaviour.

Lol, it's like when my sister wanted to stop eating so much, she told me that whenever I saw her with unnecessary food, I should slap it out of her hand but she took that rule back before I could. ;~; And I really wanted to whack food out of her hand or hands depending on what food it would have been.

Omg, that's a great way to wake up! I've always wanted to touch someone's nose for an actual reason. Another one of my friends has a problem like that except it's not touching her nose that wakes her. Basically I can do everything and she won't wake up! I threw like 5 pillows at her, poked her constantly, yelled random words in her ear and what woke her up was me opening the door and leaving. -_-
Vulpinefire
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 5:42 PM Post #169
That's true. Though sometimes connecting those issues can help -we can take inspiration from what we did then to get through it, and if need be, do it better this time around.

I suppose, but I like working, and I honestly can't see myself ever wanting to not have a job -my dream is to become a Forensic Scientist, then when I'm too old to do that to open my own bakery in the countryside and live like that for the rest of my days. I think I'd be really bored if I didn't have a job.

That's good.

All of those who mistreat animals are of the mindset of the animal being below humans, and therefore don't deserve the same consideration as humans do. Some don't care for humans either, some are just horrid people in general, but there are some who treat humans with respect and care but don't animals. Those are the hardest ones to apprehend. The ones who are horrid in general tend to blatant about their mistreatment of others and of animals.

I've never really been terrified of teachers -I was brought up to be too blunt for that and therefore would speak up when I felt it due. I respected them a lot and I think they saw that, and therefore respected me back. I was rather more mature than others my age, and I think that stood out. I was very opinionated at a young age but also was willing to accept others opinions. Though of course, there were teachers who saw that children should be seen and not heard and I just wasn't that type of child, so there was some butting of heads between me and some teachers. Mainly Mrs Fountain.

Haha, I was your sister and I'd let anyone actually go through with hitting food out of my hand, I'd probably hit them. Hard. No one gets between me and my food. No one.

Haha, I suppose, though I do find it weird if I'm perfectly honest.

That story reminded me of when my sister was staying over and we happened to have the repair man coming around that day to look at our leaking roof (it still leaks when it rains) that was in my bedroom, the room she happened to be sleeping in, and because she'd refused to get up we just let the repair man into the room, he was a bit weirded out but we said for him to ignore the currently snoring person in the bed and to carry on with what he needed to do, which he did, that is until my sister went all Dracula on us and sat up in bed while loudly, and angrily asking where our mum was. The repair man jumped half way into the air while me and my dad laughed. My sister just stomped out of the room. There were a few curses from her, too.
Edited By Vulpinefire on 6/10/2017 at 5:43 PM.
Gee426
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Posted: 6/10/2017 at 6:07 PM Post #170
That's a nice way of looking at it. Fixing your current problems by ones that you messed up on previously and you know what? That does actually happen sometimes.

I understand where you're coming from but I think that if I were old and didn't have a job I would spend my time on other things, maybe start gardening and get it really nice. Work on my cooking skills (Those could really use some work. Once I melted a spatula, forgot to turn the stove off -_-) If I have grandchildren I would also have them over and play with them. I think it would be fun to be able to spend time on family more than I can at the moment.

It is good! I thought I wouldn't see him much but I have.

I still don't understand that mindset, animals feel as much pain, animals are living beings. What makes it okay to do that kind of thing? I actually believe the ones that only dislike animals, I think that they can't understand that animals are alive, it's like they look at them as possessions or inanimate objects.

Hm, so you don't feel like some teachers want to destroy you when you make the slightest error? My terms of polite was don't talk, don't look and don't question. I wasn't necessarily mature, I mean I was sensible and quiet but that was mostly because I could barely talk to people, I had a small friendship group and anyone outside of that group thought we were weird and different. Yeah, some teachers were like that! Some tried to encourage me to talk and others when I said anything would just look at me like 'What are you doing? Crawl back into your hole of solitude!'

Yep, that's basically me! When my sister suggested that all I could imagine was her slapping food out of my hand and thought me said 'Don't touch my food!' Food is basically why I live.

Eh, only a little bit!

Lol! That's such a weird thing to do. Normally, I would reply with a stupid story from random moments in my life but right now... I got nothing.
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