I disagree with this statement about werewolves.

"Werewolves can not. They do not turn in normal wolves but in a stronger (uglyer) mutation mix that goes berserk in the full moon (and those that control it do not go berserk unless they like going berserk lol)."

Sorry Amber I know I'm being a pain to you but I just don't see werewolves as berserk monsters and the ones that have control would not engage a blood rampage unless they were suicidal or crazy. I don't see why werewolves couldn't just be larger stronger wolves it doesn't really make a difference shifters are really strong and nearly unbeatable so why would having a single species be able to full shift be a problem? Shifters are probably werewolf ancestors anyway. In my mind all werewolves posses a certain element of beauty and they can talk in half shift though hard to understand and the form being only something that is taken-on by experienced older wolves. (Why? Because when a werewolf goes into shift if the human naturally allows the wolf to come forth in a form of unity with them and their skin is reforming and bones cracking and muscles shredding and you are a writing ball of yuck it takes a lot of determination and trust in your wolf to say 'stop' and then get your skin and muscles and bones to reform into and uncommon shift while you reali on your wolf's magic to heal you into that which should not exist)

I see shifters being able to transform into anything that includes plants this makes them special and different form werewolves, the vast number of things they can turn into, not the way or what they turn into. Also shifters would just duplicate the original object not be a larger or stronger version of it.

Finally got my Angel thing typed it's rather long so don't read until you have time, and your brain isn't fired. I had to make a whole new race so that's why it's so long please PM any questions you have. It's somewhere at the bottom titled Angels Earthbounds and More, for now it is the last post.

http://www.sylestia.com/forums/?t=1662&page=1#6

Because shifters can turn into wolves as well, and wherewolves do not look like monsters if they are normal wolves. Almost ALL monster series and stuff do not look like normal wolves, (Buffy, harry potter, supernatural, van helsing, charmed etc.).

And twilight doesn't have wherewolves, but shifters. The one thing I loved about twilight (I didn't love the movies but I didn't hate them either, I think people overreact about these movies either way but moving on) is that there where huge wolves! I fell on love with that concept. And want to use that for shifters in this. That would be the level A kinda shifter, the shifter that can turn into 1 huge version of an animal, and all other just normal sised.

Plants are boring. Things don't live. Shifters are more cool (and fun to play) if they turn into animals.

My wherewolf comment was nothing but what I have observed in all monster hunting things I have seen. And that is the concept I know see with a wherewolf. Not a normal looking wolf. I see normal looking wolfs with shifters.

And no I do not think shifter come from wherewolves. They have different backgrounds. Shifters would be more spiritual, in the past long ago spiritual humans fuse their spirits with an animal. Now years later their offspring can still use that connections to shift.

Wherewolves are usualy bitten, forced into a transformation they did not want. Nothing spiritual about it's beginning.

OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That changes everything! Okay we are looking at shifters in completely different views. See I also hated twilight but appreciate that she devoted like four chapters to explaining that the wolves weren't werewolves. See I don't view them as shifter ether though. I view them as mediums. Beings that can contact he spirit of a creature and form a synergistic bond though acceptance of that creature allowing them into said form in a shared body.

Were I see shifters as being of near fea that are the ancestors of all shifting creatures and are compeltyl inhuman and seprate from all other races in uqnicness.

@Amberanime,

I'm fine with the werewolves full-wolf form being a larger-than-normal wolf, just so long as they aren't the size of cars, like they were in the Twilight movies. But there will be a full-shifted form, and a half-shifted form. Each werewolf only gets one, and you can't switch between them. I explained the reasoning earlier, but it's essentially based off the human's state of mind on the whole thing when they change. And maybe some people do want to be werewolves, just like some people want to be vampires. Generalizations are made to be proven wrong.

We wouldn't be hunting the full-wolf ones. They can control themselves, because they see little difference between themselves and the wolf, or are willing to hand control over to the wolf mind. It's the half-shifted ones that fight the change and go crazy. Because werewolves have the same shy, private tendencies as their non-magical cousins, all anyone outside the local pack knows about are the insane ones.

I think there should be a rule among the shifters that they don't turn into humans, just on general principle. Have any of you read the Animorphs series that came out back in the 80's? They had a similar rule. But I'm not in charge of shifters, so that's not up to me.

I think it would be kinda neat if the werewolf culture on the whole thought of shifters as 'cousins,' but the shifters didn't much care for werewolves.

Has anyone had a chance to review my angel post. I would like to feedback to know what I need to tweak to satisfy people.

@Ragnaroc,
Whoops, I did! Sorry, I forgot to comment on that! DX

So they are actually like caterpillars and butterfly right? We see caterpillars as gluttonous and eats leaf like crazy, though the Ripper younglings are more savage because they eat people too.

And not all ascended angels are nice right? They might not be savage anymore, but that doesn't mean they can't be evil too, I hope I'm understanding all of this right! OUO

I liked it though, not too complex, their behavior in flocks (that flies!) also could make a good opponents. Though I think the killing methods could be easier? Like a shot straight to their heart could also kill them just decapitate them and such too.

Oh well shooting them full of holes will them just fine it's a matter that they are decedents of angels so their regeneration ability increases with age...so you just have to make sure they can't heal after they are shot full of hole.

Oh I also forgot to mention they look frail but are stronger than the average person.

Ruinia

"And not all ascended angels are nice right? They might not be savage anymore, but that doesn't mean they can't be evil too, I hope I'm understanding all of this right! OUO "

A only 0.00000002 percent of Rippers get to angel at all. Once they are angel they can do pretty much whatever . They are flawed beings not true angels I can see them being evil particularly if one wanted to become a true angel and failed then it is just kind of stuck on this planet, angry and lacking purpose. I mean it's immortal(does not age not that it's indestructible), it's going to get bored sometime if not fet up with the planet just slowly dying on it and it not being able to leave because it was born that way. I mean it fought and crawled and dragged itself through the nearly impossible task of getting to Earthbound Angel and now what...nothing it's stuck. I'd be a little frustrated if angry too.

Oh another thing I forgot add about them when they become angel they look pretty much human usually in lighter colors, blond(most common) light eyes like blue(most common) or green but some have darker colors (dark dark brown eyes) red or dark brown hair. That is pretty much your color options. There wings are some form of white usual nad they are thicker in plumage, like a normal angel's wings.They cast a certain aura of light and are generally seen a beautiful.

Aight, all of this seems okay to me though, sad only a rare of them get to be ascended...
Besides, aerial targets seems quite a challenge for my marksman girl! This seems okay to you guise? o:


PS. Someone better make me anti-regen arrows to make it easier! XD

The level A shapeshifter would be able to turn into a big one like in twilight. But they would only be able to do that with one animal. So if they can turn into a huge wolf, all other animals will be normal sized. Only Level A shifters can do this. Also the shifters can only transform into animals, not humans or plants etc.

Again in short:
Level D: Can only transform into a 1 normal animal.
Level C: Can transform into more normal animals.
Level B: Can transform into more normal animals and can combine things like hawk wings with cat body.
Level A: Can transform into more normal animals, can combine and can transform into a huge version of only 1 animal.

As for wherewolves, as long as the ones we HUNT do not look like normal wolves, I am ok with it.

Sorry Rag, I haven't read your angels yet, didn't have the time. I will try to read it today or tomorrow!