This came from a discussion of rainbow traits, and how I would personally love more rainbow traits on pets, and just gradient traits in general.

I, however, know that many players loathe the rainbow traits, especially on themes, so Savynn mentioned a disruptor for getting rid of 'unliked traits' such as rainbow or lucky runes, or leaf veins.

However, To me, those would be practically useless, because many of the traits I dislike, tend to be some of the more popular ones, or at least it seems so. I personally would love to be able to get rid of corruption, tentacle wings, bone traits, etc..

So, I thought about a disruptor that would be for a specific trait slot. This would either be one disruptor that can have the slot you want to disrupt chosen, or multiple disruptors that only work on specific slots.

IE, a disruptor of Gene One (themed).

I know that that this would be immensely powerful, and potentially overpowered, so some potential restrictions (not all of these would apply, but one or more could, to limit how powerful the item(s) is)

1. Be very expensive, much more than the regular trait disruptors, including restricted ones.

2. Be very difficult to obtain. Savynn mentioned putting theirs in the scale shop, and if it is, it should be even more expensive than legendary egglings, possibly by quite a lot. Though this might actually get me to learn how to nurture everything in one day :P

3. only able to use one per pet, instead of being like a trait disruptor, where you can disrupt as many times as you want, this would be more like a genetic mutator, where only one can be used per pet. Basically, instead of rolling to get the trait you want in that slot, you are using it to get rid of a trait you dislike. This seems to be the most unpopular option, and I didn't even like it when I typed it, so just marking it out now :P

4. While I would love to use this on offspring, I could also see it only be able to be used on exclusive/tamed pets and not bred pets

5. Pet must be Unbred at the time the philter is used. (previously this made it sound like the pet would be made infertile, which was not my intention)

I know there have been many times I have gotten a pet, and it had one of the traits I dislike (or even if I liked that trait, I didn't want it on that particular pet, but the other traits I loved, so I either had to accept the trait I didn't like, try to get a pet with the traits I Like, but not the one I didn't, or disrupt the pet and hope I get good traits that I like just as much and none of the ones I dislike.

This would at least make it easier to get rid of traits I dislike without touching ones I like. It wouldn't necessarily mean I get a trait I like, because it would be completely random as to the trait I get, I could just guarantee that if I wanted a G1 trait on that particular pet, but not THAT G1 trait, I could do so.

What would be the use of the big cost if the pet cannot breed?

Whoops, sorry will fix that. I didn't mean the pet would be made infertile, I meant that it can't have been bred before the trait disruptor was used.

IE, it cannot have offspring at the moment the philter was used, but it can have it after words.

ah that makes more sense. Lordy i have lucky runes in my first theme chosen via ONE original with the runes carried xD These days i have 70 with lucky runes, only 3 with them vis at least xD if i cover it it goes into hiding but passes to offspring over and over and then BAM! its visible <.< and then i have a 5v1c with vis lucky runes xD

I think it is cute <3

But yeah, though that is why I think a philter that will be able to target a specific gene slot is better than one that would be able to target only specific genes.

You would potentially be benefited by being able to get rid of lucky runes, but I often like that trait (it all depends on the pet/theme), so to me, being able to only get rid of lucky runes/rainbow traits wouldn't be useful except in very specific cases, and many times? it wouldn't be worth it to me to do that, because the pets that often get those traits are a dime a dozen as the saying goes. Meaning that I could easily get another with the traits I do like..

However, when we had the named Aeri events, I didn't get a lot of aeries, but I did get at least one I think. With Corruption. I don't like Corruption, but other people were snapping up aeries with that trait. Sadly, other aeris with other traits weren't cheap, because they weren't a common enemy (At least for me) so I couldn't easily replace the one(s) I found with others. A trait disruptor that only worked on specific traits, or the regular trait disruptor, wouldn't help me, because Corruption probably wouldn't have been one of the traits selected ,and since these were one vis, I didn't see using a philter on them that would just shuffle one trait around.

yeah I totally get that, i think i got corruption on some of mine too. Yeah it would be a handy philter to have for sure. Disrupt a 3v a couple times and LOVE 2/3 traits but want a different trait than one you hate xD yeah pick up the disrupter for the slot you do want. Really not sure if it would be viable for krin though since some people, myself included, will just buy distrupters and keep shuffling those traits till the trait we want comes up xD

man I know that 'why did you have to have this one trait' feel- I have this guy: and the fact that he has maine coon ears just kills me. And I can't theme disrupt or restricted disrupt him because then he'd just as likely lose rainbowfish vis (/ tanuki carry) which I want because those traits are my traits?? (I just,,, really hate maine coon ears dangit they're so ugly)

So a mutator or disruptor that would shuffle one trait slot within itself or allow for a single specific trait to be disrupted completely would be nice, and yeah, it being more expensive than other mutators/disruptors would make sense. I would like it a lot though because, as with my luff there, sometimes you get a pet that's perfect,,, except that it has That One Trait.

I'm not sure so much that 'only one use per pet' would be great though, since it being random, wouldn't there be the chance that it would randomize to the same trait (I disrupted one of my nephs twice? three times? trying to get rid of his butterfly wings and he randomised them right back each time (then I gave up and just let him keep them))- alternately, you get the terrible luck that it randomises to a trait you dislike just as much and then you're stuck with that one instead.

Yeah, I am not really that happy about the thought of it only being able to be used once per pet, but I figured it could be a drawback.

That list wasn't so much of a 'all these will apply to the item' type, but more 'perhaps something from this list would help make this less overpowered'

I personally would love, and honestly don't really see any harm in, allowing it to be used multiple times per pet.

I feel you with the neph, I haven't used disruptors that much, but I can definitely see me disrupting a pet, and that pet refusing to give up the hated trait. 'No! MY trait!'

3. only able to use one per pet, instead of being like a trait disruptor, where you can disrupt as many times as you want, this would be more like a genetic mutator, where only one can be used per pet. Basically, instead of rolling to get the trait you want in that slot, you are using it to get rid of a trait you dislike.

I like the idea, but I do have three letters of warning for this one in particular.

RNG


I've seen numerous examples where a player disrupts a pet hoping to be rid of just ONE trait that they don't like, and RNG gives them the exact same trait. Over the years I've even seen a few bug reports for 1V pets like "I bought a disruptor for this pet but it changed nothing and the item is gone :( " or a " I used a trait disruptor but all it did was remove the recessive trait :( " only for Krin to respond something along the lines of, "Yup, that's the magic of RNG! :D"

Details are vague on this one since it was so long ago, but I can also recall a player using multiple themed disrupts trying to get rid of Peacock Tail on a rikki (think it was 3V?) and RNG gave them the Peacock Tail like... 3 times in a row while changing the other traits around. And Peacock Tail returned even more than that by the time they were satisfied, but I think it may have removed Peacock Tail once or twice while giving them another " >_< anything but that!!" trait in a different slot in between, and then it went right back to Peacock Tail with the next couple of disrupts. I bet that person would have loved to change only the M1.

And in these examples RNG was opened up open up a multitude of slots to land on since it could have been any trait slot. Imagine a "you can only use once" for something like a Bulbori? G2, M2, and M3 all have just FOUR traits. (Well, M3 has a handful of restricted like Lucky Dust and Spring Blossoms, but I'm not counting those since they wouldn't be in the RNG roll for this kind of philter; G2 and M2 are strictly A B C or D, and M3's only non-restricted options are A B C and D) That's a 25% chance you get the same trait you wanted to be rid of. M1 is even worse with only 3 options, so that's a 1 in 3 chance of utterly wasting an expensive philter and never getting a chance to actually correct it.


RNG is much too cruel for a "you only get to use this once" limitation to be viable. Perhaps acceptable if Krin fixes the "disrupt gives you the exact same trait and changes absolutely NOTHING!!! :D " nonsense, but I'm not sure if it's even feasible since it's been a recurring problem for so long.

Oh, I agree, RNG hates me.

The other day I said I liked rainbow traits, meaning on certain themes, and RNG decided to give me TWO rainbow traits on TWO egg hatches... So I completely understand.

The list of restrictions weren't meant to be 'all these apply to this item' but more of 'pick one or more' to make the item less overpowered. Personally, even as I was typing it, I didn't like the idea of it only being able to be used once per pet, because of RNG. I mean, if I have two traits out of 100 that I dislike, same slot, and I have one trait, I disrupt, chances are, I *will* get the other one.

Really, I would be happy with having it a very expensive scale shop item, and this is said as someone who perpetually needs lesser dyes for dye projects and so would probably never even be able to buy one for herself. No other restrictions, just that one.

I just don't know how Krin would feel about it, so I thought give some various options that might work.

However, I might edit that one a bit to show it is the least favored of the options.