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Forum Index > Off-Topic Discussion > believe in bigfoot...?
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Xenios
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Posted: 12/26/2016 at 10:06 AM Post #1
I am a cryptozoologist at heart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology
In fact, when I am older, I plan to dedicate my life to cryptozoology! That's right, folks! I'm a believer, and I'm not ashamed!
I passed my cryptozoology course with an 89% grade...which is a B+...not the best I guess...but I hope to learn more!
Any other Future Cryptozoologists, Bigfoot Believers or other cryptid fans?
Eots
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Posted: 12/28/2016 at 11:17 PM Post #2
I am a fan of cryptozoology as a hobby, but I've found that most accounts of yeti-like creatures are biased, unreliable, and easily refuted. While there is a small number of truly convincing cases, they are usually the ones most quickly passed over due to their questionable value in press. In any case, the "sasquatch" phenomenon that has spread to encompass many aspects of culture worldwide. This happens to be both a benefit and a drawback to witnesses and people seeking to defraud alike; those who have had believable and genuine experiences are more likely to report them. Part of the problem with well-known phenomena, however, happens to be an ironic lack of public information. Most do not know what makes a case credible, so they are easily swayed by so-called "hoaxers" who exploit the situation. I try, therefore, to investigate less publicized creatures. If you do know of any of those, then I may be familiar with them, and I'd happy to debate and discuss the multitudinous facets of this topic.
Xenios
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Posted: 12/29/2016 at 10:21 AM Post #3
Of course! I'm elated at your suggestion! In fact, as a cryptozoologist I am MORE interested in the lesser-known cryptids than in Bigfoot, Nessie, etcetera.

I find the Russian Brosnya, JErsey Devil, Dover Demon, Bray Road Beast/Michigan Wolfman, chupacabra, Tasmanian tiger, Yara-ma-yha-who, mothman, mannegishi, kappa, and--one of my personal favorites-- the Alien Big Cat--very intriguing.

*I do want to clarify that I am NOT a UFOlogist. I find the topic of alien life very...remarkable and unlikely, so I leave this to others.

I do have suspicions and a very intereseting tale about the ABC's however...I believe to have had one in my very own backyard.
Eots
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Posted: 12/29/2016 at 5:13 PM Post #4
The alien big cats and Thylacine are some of the easiest for others to accept as well as some of the most believable in my opinion. An explanation for sightings doesn't have to go into the enigma of population sustainability, evolution, or location since these animals already exist or existed. Nonnative big cats just barely fit into the realm of cryptozoological, if you ask me, since any sane person should believe in their existence.

It's funny that you should mention the Russian Brosnya; Russian aquatic beasts are particularly fascinating in nature because that's the most likely place for creatures such as these to exist. Northern Russia isn't very heavily populated, and many of the lakes there are large, deep, and very old. Lake Baikal, for instance, is the seventh largest lake in the world in addition to being the oldest and the deepest. Scientists have taken samples from the water beneath its sheets of ice and found several new species of bacteria indigenous only to it. There are also reports of divers who went beneath the surface and discovered what they described as something akin to mer-people who supposedly killed three of them. While their account is probably not reliable, there is a genuine possibility of new species different from anything we've ever seen.

The mothman is a very intriguing subject that is one part cryptid and three parts supernatural entity. There's quite a bit of controversy regarding its intentions and properties, but it's a complex enough topic that we can get to it another time.

I would like to say that I happen to be something of a nonprofessional ufologist (not to clash with you or anything), but I'll spare you a lecture about the similarities of abductee descriptions and the mannegishi.
Xenios
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Posted: 12/29/2016 at 5:20 PM Post #5
Oh no, don't hold back because of me! I love to excercise myself with a good debate. Really gets those juices flowing.

What is your opinion on the Ennedi Tiger and Smilodon similarities?
Eots
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Posted: 12/29/2016 at 6:28 PM Post #6
The odd thing about so many of the creatures we hear about is that they do resemble prehistoric animals. In some cases this is probably due to survivors from earlier times (as with the coelacanth) or descendants of them (as with horseshoe crabs and alligators), but sometimes I suspect that their similarity is coincidental. In the case of Smilodons and modern-day big cats, the only notable difference in appearance is the lack of protruding canines in the latter. If a predatory African cat were to develop such a feature, then we probably would compare it to the ancient saber-toothed tiger. With the Ennedi tiger, I would suppose that it isn't the case of a simple mutation but is instead a case of the disparity of contrasting species. Otherwise, I don't see how in almost every sighting these felines would have the same unique coat. I wouldn't entirely rule out the possibility that they are descendants; however, if I'm remembering correctly, Smilodon's main habitat was in North and South America and not in Africa. I could be wrong there, though.

Oh, and I think it's really better that I steer clear of my alien visitation speeches. They get rather long-winded and have no discernible point once I get to the end of them.
Xenios
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Posted: 12/29/2016 at 6:45 PM Post #7
Very true! How long have you been studying cryptozoology?

Considering cryptozoology, what do you think of mythical creatures? Such as gryphons, hippogryphs, hippocampus, undines, dragons, unicorns, chimera, and--particularly--the fearsome manticore?
Xenios
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Posted: 12/29/2016 at 6:46 PM Post #8
Many, I believe can be explained--that is, dragons, mermaids, unicorns--but what of the others?
Eots
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Posted: 12/29/2016 at 7:34 PM Post #9
I've really been interested in cryptozoology for as long as I've been alive. I've read a few books on the subject, but it also goes hand in hand with evolution, which has been the focus of a few years of my free time. I've studied alien abduction and other unexplained phenomena for much longer, but it's really just two sides of the same coin, depending on one's view of the way the world works.

Mythology is a whole different area, though. While the study of unconfirmed animals is more scientific, mythology has more psychological facets. It's based on human and animalistic fears and desires. Mythological creatures could be used to explain things which would otherwise be unknowable at their time of conception. They are often an integral part the religion of the people who manifested it, and they perform almost the same functions. Religion encompasses usually a person's lifestyle and afterlife, but legendry, while able to confront matters such as these, does surround anything else of importance to humanity. As a civilisation scientifically progresses, it often abandons its need for myth and folklore, but the primal instincts cannot be ignored, so many are often still fascinated by the topic.
I'm always one for psychology, so this is all under my little umbrella of interests.
Jade07
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Posted: 12/30/2016 at 3:22 AM Post #10
i love all animals and cryptids while i'll probably be a vet or a designer when i grow up i might take cryptozoology as a hobby i'd mostly be traveling to tasmania to show that tasmanian tigers are still alive
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