I really don't know. I have a 8tp male Ny'vene in the sale stable... I have a male Shimmering Sea Kelpie that I don't know what to do with (would love a female for him)... I have an Aeridini and three Ryori in the hatchery... there is a little male Ny'vene and a Ny'vene egg... Taking prices on all of them (except for the Kelpari; he's not for sale, and the Ny'vene, who is already priced)!