Gorgeous pair, Copper!

I'll have access to Bengal Fade for G1 and G2, and to the Petal Wings and Autumn Dragoon Helm. Adding that to the traits you have from your tagged and your goal will definitely be achievable!

And if possible I'd love to acquire the three traits on your female for the offspring/breeding swaps. The details can be worked out later on if you prefer, but I'll definitely let you know the moment something with those traits becomes available. :)

You put:


Visible Trait: +100k
Carried Trait: +50k
FEMALE: +100k

Completed 6-vis: 1,250,000 for males. 1,500,000 for females.

Wouldnt it be 600k for male and 700k for female?

The male you posted is a 3-vis, which would be 300k (if there are no carries)

The female is a 4-vis, which would be 500k (if there aren't any carries.)


Added together it comes to 800k in total. :)

*sidles in shyly*

Being as I've decided to keep my SN Ligh (he's my first wheel pet and also I really like the theme), I figure I may as well put him to good use rather than let him rot in my stables. So... I'd be willing to contribute to the project! You already have Ember Runes and Henna, but I can at least offer you the Dragoon Armor. He's only 16 days old but I have a few pies floating in my inventory I can cram down his gullet to help speed the aging up...!

And taking a 6-vis in exchange is fine by me- I don't mind the wait. I don't have a set design/set of traits in mind atm since I'm honestly terrible at putting things together, though! Best I have for an idea is that I'd prefer a male (dat mane :E ) and I'm not super fond of the flame wings (unless they happen to look really, really good with a certain design set), ornate crest or jeweled bows traits. That's about as far as I've gotten.

But yeah, I can start poking the pies to him and he'll be all yours to use as you need in due time!

No I mean like for the completed 6-vis, wouldn't it be.. different than what you put? You might 1.5m for female and 1.25m for male for completed 6-vis

100k sounds fine to me. ^^
I'll let you know when he's old enough to breed!

Ah, the completed pricing. ^^

The way I see it, anything that is 5-vis and below is still a FAIL of the project. With a 5-vis, there is still room for improvement, so I sell them to others on a regular basis. If someone else wants to try breeding a 6-vis from a 5-vis I don't need, it will still take them at least two more generations to complete, but more likely it would take three or four, depending on their knowledge in breeding and the rest of their breeding stock. That would be anywhere from 2-4 MONTHS of work needed.

As for the 6-vis? It's DONE. There's nothing left to improve on. No time and effort needed, no breeding to do, no organization, no massive project to fill up stable space. So, the price is nearly doubled since the project is 100% complete.

Consider it the true cost of my 6+ months of breedings and orchestrating. The fails are simply in my way - if someone else wants them, that's the price they can have them at. If no one wants them, they're released. That's it, end of story. I go through hundreds, no THOUSANDS of fails. The 6-vis on the other hand, are successes.

Price of Success > Price of Failure



It may mean that less 6-vis will be sold, but... *shrugs* I would rather they be a rare commodity as opposed to being near as common as the 5-vis. :)

I am starting a 6-vis SE Ny'vene project with Snocone2 and I was wondering for the 6-vis should I up the final 6-vis price? Because its at 600k for male and 700k for female, but it will take some time and it doesn't seem too reasonable (to me)

Really that would be up to you and Sno. :)

I've only sold ONE 6-vis to date, simply because I've been trying to figure out a decent pricing for it. The one I sold was a wild fabled theme, the Arctic Storm Griffi. The theme was available in the wild during the Winter Fest last year. (Not a wheel pet.)

My pricing for those would have put it at 300k if I were to use the base prices for a 6-vis. But, I didn't feel comfortable with the low price so instead it was sold for 500k to a friend. Friends always get discounts from me, so I figure to anyone else I would probably sell a 6-vis wild fabled theme for 600k.

600k would be the calculated price for a 6-vis WHEEL pet, so... I had to figure a higher price for those as well. Roughly doubled they would be... 1.2 million and 1.4 million. But I prefer more rounded prices. :3

Mostly, it depends on how many you want circulating in the market and how many sales you want to make. With a higher price, fewer would be scattered. With a lower price they would be far more easy to obtain.


And there's also the risk of someone putting it up for breedings once they've bought it, or breeding it an selling the offspring, which would then amplify the amount on the open market. Eventually I'm hoping they'll be setting up an infertility philter. Probably another part of the reason why I haven't sold too many 6-vis.

To give an example of this... Very early on a 6-vis Zolnixi was once gifted to a new player. The new player then set him up for 1-gold breeding, and the entire market for Zolnixi was crashed since 6-trait offspring were so easy to obtain.


My advice to protect the market... Up the price of a completed 6-vis. And try not to sell many 6-trait offspring. 6-trait pets (even two 6-carry pets) are capable of breeding a 6-vis.

Ok, thanks for the advice! I put the final 6-vis price at 1m for male and 1.2m for female, since not as many people like the SE Ny'vene