How the heck did that happen? DarkWingedAngels Guide to how genetics work on sylestia
this guide was designed to answer more of the common questions about how to figure out what genes your pet has and why a gene pops up when you don't think it should. If you would like to get more into the odds and things like that, please see Reynbowz's guide on breeding here.
Hit ctrl + f if you looking for a particular section. Type in a key word and it should take you to what your looking for without having to read everything.
The following guide has been written under the presumption that a pet has been genetically tested. If your pet is not genetically tested, some of the following aspects will not be see-able until it has been tested. You can buy testers off the broker, find a free testing service in the breeding forums or PM me. Set the babies up for 1g to my user id (or whoever is going to test it for you) and send me (them) the links.
Please do not post to this thread asking for pets to be tested.
Getting down to the basics:
In this section we will cover:
*Aging, philters and magical pies
*How to tell the difference between a carried and a visible
*What is a GP?
*How to determine if a gene is dominant or recessive
Aging, philters and magical pies
An egg takes 3 days to hatch (72 hours)
a hatcling turns adolescent at 9 days (216 hours)
An adolescent turns adult at 27 days. (648 hours)
So the whole process from birth to adulthood is 27 days.
If you generated a pet, it will become an adult in 19 days.
Eggs can hatch faster than 72 hours and hatchlings can hit adulthood faster than 216 hours if the pet has received enough nurture clicks.
If your pet has been tested, you can see how long it has to adulthood by copying the image url and pasting it into your web address. then find the end of the code where it says maturity=648&size=250
Subtract the number after the word maturity= from 648. Then divide by 24. For examlpe, if it said maturity=341&size=250
I would do this:
648
-341
=307
307/24
=12.8
That means the pet in question would have 12.8 more days until it was an adult. This is very useful for captured pets. If the pet was bred and did not have a pie used on it, you could just look at the number of days old on it's profile.
there is a lot of confusion on days. most people will tell you 18 days for a generated pet and 26 for a hatchling to adult. It's 19 and 27 because the bet is not breed able until the end of the final day. (so pets that are 26 days stay in the hatchery until they hit 27 days)
Magical Pies:
Magical pies can be bought from the diamond store for 100 diamonds or purchased from another player. They age up adolescent pets (8 days-27 days) by 6 days or 144 points. You can only use a pie once every 3 days. After a pie has been used, a little pie icon will appear on the pet's profile page. Once the pie icon dissapears, you can use another pie.
Philters
Philters can be used on an egg when it hatches to boost a specific stat or all of them.
They are used the same way a pie is used but only when you are hatching the babies. The only acception to this is the philter of gender swapping.
Below is a list of the different philters and what they do. Philters can be purchased from the diamond shopdiamond shop and lesser philters can be purchased from the scale shop
Prismatic Philter: Increases base heath of the pet by 200 HP and and increases all other stats (strength, intelligence, agility, dexterity) by 10.
Philter of Vigor: Increases strength. Greater: 20, lesser: 5
Philter of Precision: Increase Dexterity. Greater: 20, lesser: 5
Philter of Acumen: Increase Intelligence. Greater: 20, lesser: 5
Philter of Nimbleness : Increase Agility. Greater: 20, lesser: 5
Philter of gender swapping: Can be used to change the gender of a pet ONLY if that pet has never been bred. Once the pet has been bred, a gender swapping potion is no longer usable on that pet.
How to know if your pet has a carried gene or a visible gene?
2 ways.
Here is the easiest: Look at the pets profile.
If the gene is italicized, It is carried.
If the gene is written normally, it is visible.
Lets take a look at Cherry Lime for proof.
Cherry Limes Genetics information shows that regal markings and spirit flames should be visible and that talismans should only be a carried.
When we look at her, we see she has two visible genes, spirit flames and regal markings. But like we suspected, she does not have any visible talismans.
A second way to tell which genes are visible and which genes are carried is to look at the url code.
Here is how to check this yourself.
Step 1: Right click on the picture of your pet and copy the image url
Step 2: Paste the img URL into your web address bar
Step 3: Look for the part of the code where it says gender=female (or male) after that part, you will see something that says &gd1= GD1= stands for Gene design one. There should be two capital letters following this. There will be 6 of these in total. 3 for the genes, and 3 for the mutations. Here is what Cherry Limes looks like. Be advised that your 2 letter codes will vary with your pets.
gender=female&gd1=EE&gd2=NN&gd3=NN&md1=NN&md2=BB&md3=NA
If your pet does not have any genes in a selected slot, the code will be NN. N stands for none or nothing.
If a pet has a carried gene, it will appear in the second spot of that code. For example: NA
If a pet has a visible gene, it will appear in the first part of that code. For example: AA
So first slot of the two letters is the visible slot, second slot of the two letters is the carried slot.
*** Please note that if a Pet has a visible gene, it technically already has a carried so you will never see an N in the second slot but not the first. We will get into a more detailed explanation of this later :)
So when we look at Cherry Limes code, we see gd1=EE (or gene design one) does not have the letter N in it. The first slot has a different letter. Because the first slot has a different letter, we know it is a visible gene.
gender=female&gd1=EE&gd2=NN&gd3=NN&md1=NN&md2=BB&md3=NA
When we look at md3=NA (or mutation design 3) in the genetic code, we see that it says md3=NA. We know that this means the gene is carried since the visible spot says N but the carried spot has a different letter.
gender=female&gd1=EE&gd2=NN&gd3=NN&md1=NN&md2=BB&md3=NA
When we look at her genetics information on her profile page, we see that this is true.
What is a GP?
GP stands for Genotype Point. (Or gene point). For each visible gene, a pet has 2 GP. For each carried gene, a pet has 1 gp.
For example:
Lets take another look at Cherry Lime. When we click on her profile we see that she has 3 different genes.
2 of her genes are visible, Regal markings and Spirit flames. Because they are visible, each gene has 2 GP. So 4 GP total for both visible genes.
We also see that she has carried talismans so that is worth 1 GP.
In total, Cherry Lime has 5 GP.
Because a pet can have up to 6 visible genes, the maximum total amount of GP at pet can have is 12 GP. 2 points for every visible gene.
How to determine if a gene is dominant or recessive
Genes aren't just black and white. A pet will show or inherit genes the same way be people do. Through dominants and recessives.
What the heck does that mean???
It means one gene has better odds of showing over another gene in that same gene slot.
How do you figure out which is more dominant?
You can go to the generators to see the list.
Lets take a look at Gene one for a zolnixi.
The most dominant gene is the first one in the drop down menu. It will be given the tag AA in your pets genetic code. Each gene then goes in alphabetical order with the gene under the first one being more recessive to those above it.
But just because the second gene (Code BB) is recessive to the first gene (Code AA) Doesn't mean it is recessive and will never appear.
Gene choice 2 (code BB) is still more dominant to gene choice 3 (code CC)
Lets put that into some words. For Zolnixis, Gene one, banded stripes is first in the drop down list. This means banded stripes is the most dominant gene for gene slot one on the zolnixis.
Double stripes is the last gene listed for the gene one options. Therefore it is recessive to all other genes in that slot.
Most likely it will pick up a hidden carry, but we will talk about that later :)
Once you realize the letters of the alphabet relate directly to the order of dominance for a gene, you can understand why each gene is tagged differently in the code.
Let's take another look at Cherry Lime's Genetic code and use it to reffer back to the above picture:
gender=female&gd1=EE&gd2=NN&gd3=NN&md1=NN&md2=BB&md3=NA
As we can see, dg1 (Gene design 1) has the letter code EE after it. If we look at the drop down menu, We see that regal markings is in the same position as E in the alphabet. It's also the visible gene on Cherry Lime!!!!
Getting a little more tricky.
*Why does a gene show up when neither parent displayed it?
*What's a hidden carried and how do you find it
* How can I figure out the odds of producing a certain gene?
Why does a gene show up when neither parent displayed it?
Let's refer back to the generator and the drop down list for a zolnixi Gene one.
If you bred a zolnixi with visible banded stripes (Code AA) To a zolnixi with visible double stripes (code II), Your baby has a good chance of showing banded stripes but can instead show any of the slot one genes.
If you bred a zolnixi with visible tribal stripes (code BB) To a zolnixi with visible Cross fox (Code HH) It will most likely show tribal stripes but has a chance to show any gene between tribal stripes and cross fox. However, this pet will never show banded stripes or double stripes. This is because tribal stripes is the most dominant option the genes have to work with and banded stripes is more dominant than tribal stripes. Same is true on the other end of the spectrum. Cross fox is the most recessive gene available to the breeding, but double stripes is more recessive than cross fox.
Think if it this way: It's a range for the outcomes available to the pet. If you don't include certain letters, they can't be a possibility!!
(So AA-II is a bigger range than BB-HH)
What's a hidden carried?
But my two zolnixi's both show Banded stripes and their baby has tribal stripes instead!!!!
That is because your two zolnixis both have something called a hidden carried. A hidden carried is called such because your visible gene is different. But remember how the coding for the letter has two slots??
The first slot is the visible and the second slot if the carried? The Letter in both slots doesn't have to be the same. You can have two different letters such as AB or BI. Ahhhh now your catching on :)
If both of your adults show Banded stripes but the baby has visible tribal stripes, that is because both parents have a genetic code that looks like this: AB.
If you are trying to figure out if your pet has a hidden carried, there are two ways to find out.
First, copy the image url and paste it in to your web address bar like we did earlier.
Then find the genetic code section starting with the gender of your pet like before.
gender=female&gd1=EE&gd2=NN&gd3=NN&md1=NN&md2=BB&md3=NA
Then find the gene you want to know about and look at the second letter in the code.
When we look at Cherry Lime's second slot for the first gene, we see the letter is the same as the first letter. Therefore Cherry Lime does not have a hidden carried gene and will only pass on the genetic code for regal markings to any and all of her offspring.
The second way to figure out the genes a pet has (And usually a little more easy to read is to use the search bar) The search bar is either on the top of the page or the left hand side. Click the search button then click the pets section.
Let's take a look at some of my zolnixis. I do this by entering my user id and selecting zolnixi as my species. I want to know about their genetics so I select the button :Genetics
When we do this, all gene information for the pets in question is displayed.
Take a look at Cherry Lime. Her genetics are in agreement with the img url code we have been working with up to this point.
gender=female&gd1=EE&gd2=NN&gd3=NN&md1=NN&md2=BB&md3=NA
Now if you notice all of these pets have visibles with no hidden carried. This means they will only pass on their visible trait to an offspring. Let's take a look at a pet with some hidden carried.
Peaches N' Cream has two hidden carried. They are highlighted in purple and will be when you look pets up on your own. We can see that in Gene one, under his banded stripes, he has a recessive gene F. We go to the preview generator and look at the drop down menu. Now is a good chance to practice your singing skills. For Gene one in the drop down menu, we find that F is assigned to the gene ornate spangles. This means that there is a chance for Peaches to pass on hidden spangles to his offspring. It also means that any gene between A and F can be passed on to the offspring in that slot. So the dominant gene passed would be banded stripes, but the recessive gene could be anything between banded stripes and ornate spangles depending on the partner he is paired up with.
How can I figure out the odds of producing a certain gene?
I am going to be completly honest. Personally I never spend the time to figure out odds. If i know there is a chance for a baby to get the genes I'm after, odds don't matter since they aren't fool poof. You can get the outcome your first breeding or it could take 50 breedings.
But if you really wanna know the odds, this is how you do it :)
Take the Mother's genetic code and place one letter along the top blocks. Take the father's genetic code and place one letter above each box going down. Extend the letter above and to the side of the box through all other boxes in it's path.
Keep in mind that even if a pet does not have a visible gene, there is a chance that if two parents are both carriers, the offspring can have a chance at a visible gene in that slot.
This is just a very, very brief over view on how to determine genetic odds.To get a better understanding, please see Reynbowz's guide on breeding here. |
